I provided an example and you just said "outlier" I could provide 10 more and you would say the same thing. I find it hard that this thing that has been all over the media you haven't seen because right-wing sites will actually show pictures from the books. All I can think of is that you are a partisan hack that only follows left wing sources.
That's not what sex ed is forthat's my point, they're teaching you how to actually fuck each other safely rather than teaching you the actual safest outlet ever, because of irrational hierarchy of what's worse to teach.
It would greatly help children with religious parents, since we know all the lies religious people spread about masturbation even today.
Also, religious people spread lies such as that semen retention turns you into some sort of a super human.
You have to understand that Christians and traditional parents are the fortress of evil and most of anti-reason.
I dont know why someone like you defends traditional families.I thought you are into bestiality?
Christians cannot be convinced into anything, since the reasoning ability usually dies when person is religious for too long.
Liberty says you can't steal money to buy schools which indoctrinate kids against parent's values.
Reason says if you try you're going to get guillotined.
I also want the best for people, and the best thing for anyone in general is to find a lifelong partner of the opposite sex (and same species) and have 2-4 kids. That is what makes people happy. I've seen overwhelming evidence of that. Having promiscuous sex may hamper that goal. Having a baby with someone you aren't really compatible with (say because it was an unintended pregnancy in high-school) really hampers this goal.
If people can't have that due to sexual orientation beyond their control, I still want them to have the best life possible; but 'we' should never do anything that would convince an impressionable young mind that they are in this category. If they are, they should come to that conclusion based on the undeniable evidence of their own urges.
...and children can be made to believe anything when they're young enough. But they grow up, and when they do they look back and realize that they would have believed anything they were told. Then they feel resentment for being used.
You want to kill an idea long term? Force it on the young. They may not all deconvert but those that do will never relapse. I have no doubt the same is in the process of happening for the LGBT cult and I dearly hope the coming sexual conservatism doesn't harm more innocent people than are already being harmed.
The version with an objective and sound arguments concluding it.Liberty says you can't steal money to buy schools which indoctrinate kids against parent's values.Your version of liberty, yes.
I also want the best for people, and the best thing for anyone in general is to find a lifelong partner of the opposite sex (and same species) and have 2-4 kids. That is what makes people happy. I've seen overwhelming evidence of that. Having promiscuous sex may hamper that goal. Having a baby with someone you aren't really compatible with (say because it was an unintended pregnancy in high-school) really hampers this goal.As much as your homophobic assumptions are fun to read, they are also false.
If people can't have that due to sexual orientation beyond their control, I still want them to have the best life possible; but 'we' should never do anything that would convince an impressionable young mind that they are in this category. If they are, they should come to that conclusion based on the undeniable evidence of their own urges.So you are okay with Christians brainwashing their kids and putting them in categories, but God forbid if someone teaches a child that gay is okay.
But for you, its only bad when LGBT does it!
You want to kill an idea long term? Force it on the young. They may not all deconvert but those that do will never relapse. I have no doubt the same is in the process of happening for the LGBT cult and I dearly hope the coming sexual conservatism doesn't harm more innocent people than are already being harmed.Your "forcing idea" would just result in that you cant teach kids anything, maybe other than scientific facts.
Its a scientific fact that masturbation is healthy
I dont even see why you fight battles which you will obviously lose.
The version with an objective and sound arguments concluding it.
Interesting that you find the claim that homosexuality isn't the ideal outcome homophobic.
I'm not OK with it but I won't use force or deception to prevent it. It's the way our species works. You don't get between a mammal and his/her children. It won't end well.
However the LGBT cult has infected corporations and schools. If I had bible quizes at my work place you can bet I would be just as pissed.
Similarly I wouldn't dream of using force or lies to prevent an LGBT cultist from trying to teach their children (in the rare case they have one) their values.
1.) It's immoral to force kids into your education system2.) Therefore the only moral way to educate kids is with the full and honestly gained consent of the adult and child3.) Thus if a parent has an objection to only one subject or claim the choice is between teaching that one claim and teaching nothing4.) It's better to teach everything else minus that one claim5.) The only moral way to convince someone is through reason. Teach kids reason and then when they are adults and can evaluate your arguments correctly make the argument. This is the difference between indoctrination and debate
Perhaps.
That is not the issue I am contending. I am saying that if you've got a kid of a flat earther and the parent forbids teaching round earth it's better to teach the kid logic so he can cure himself of the delusion rather than making an issue of it and having the kid withdrawn from your school entirely
Interesting that you find the claim that homosexuality isn't the ideal outcome homophobic.If person wants to be homosexual, it is an ideal outcome for him.
But you cant apply it equally because, as previously explained, Christians had their fun for thousands of years and LGBT needs fun too.
plus a false claim that Christians are convincing their children through reason.
That is not the issue I am contending. I am saying that if you've got a kid of a flat earther and the parent forbids teaching round earth it's better to teach the kid logic so he can cure himself of the delusion rather than making an issue of it and having the kid withdrawn from your school entirelyThats an assumption. And false.
People only want to be homosexual if they were already homosexual.
They're owed a thousand years of indoctrination? Good luck justifying that moral theory.
That was not implied.
It's an assertion supported by the relative value of outcomes. I won't take your word that it is false.
People often want things they can't have or that are good in the short term but not the long term.
Also, you dont decide what is good in long term for others, people decide that for themselves.
I just don't get to force
Nothing else you said warrants a comment.
I oppose using force or deception to alter the mentoring relationship between parents and children when parents aren't using violence. There is a difference.But you support Christians forcing their lies on children, so thats another contradiction.
I oppose using force or deception to alter the mentoring relationship between parents and children when parents aren't using violence. There is a difference.
So you assume that Christian parent using deception and force on a child is okay
Read more carefully.
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- I've been merely exposed to straight people my entire life without any apparent effect.
- Insisting that there will soon be a massive conspiracy to make America gay is classic, kooky, conspiracy theory bullshit.
- I strongly recommend you make yourself a tin-foil hat- you're going to be wanting one soon
- Calling LGBTQ people 'evil' "weak" 'intolerant" "violent" "unnatural" and "illegal" in two sentences without assembling any argument is merely hate speech.
- And a desperate ploy by the immoral to convince the stupid to vote for the party of racists, rapists, and Russians.
- Fear makes bad public policy.
II don't want to be disrespectful but I stopped reading here because I provided an example and you just said "outlier" I could provide 10 more and you would say the same thing
I find it hard that this thing that has been all over the media you haven't seen because right-wing sites will actually show pictures from the books. All I can think of is that you are a partisan hack that only follows left wing sources.
I think you re aware of he indoctrination taking place and being disingenuous when you claim to not notice that California is passing laws that allow teachers to socially transition children or noticed that youtube is getting millions of views from a song about how "Yes we are coming for your kids". https://youtu.be/ArOQF4kadHA?si=FwcFYnbNJfOG3Zwt
I am sure you have seen children shows that are now shifting to promote trans ideology.
Different people have different values. You don't want your kid hearing that Jesus died on the cross for his sins in school and I don't want mine picking up a book in the school library where I have to explain an image he is swwing of 2 guys sucking each others cocks, or even descriptions of that.
It doesn't matter if it is technically porn.
What matters is having some level of respect for other members of the community.
If a video talking about teaching your children to be accepting of others has you so triggered that you would post it here as support for what you are against, then why on earth would I take your word for it when you tell me about the evils you're fighting against?
