Invincible Mafia Day Phase 1

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So what made you join back the game when you were originally out?
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Pie is at least being proactive. Barney is usually quiet no matter what. Curious about whiteflame though. He tends to be more proactive as a member of the town, from the games I've read, and he hadn't been super active on making accusations in this game or saying who he suspects. Tbf, it is the first round. RM said something in one game about whiteflame being more passive as a scum player, and he ended up being right. (I believe it was Governor's mafia, but it might have been an older game.)

Downside is that if we lynch whiteflame and are wrong, we lose a good (and generally proactive) player for the town early on. I'm not saying it's definitely him, but how he's behaved so far is how I'd expect him to behave as a scum player.
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Meant to tag you as well. Don't want to throw out accusations behind your back.
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Anyone have any SOP claim line Miller or PGO or Town Roleblocker or something? Better to confess now
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Pie is at least being proactive. Barney is usually quiet no matter what. Curious about whiteflame though. He tends to be more proactive as a member of the town, from the games I've read, and he hadn't been super active on making accusations in this game or saying who he suspects. Tbf, it is the first round. RM said something in one game about whiteflame being more passive as a scum player, and he ended up being right. (I believe it was Governor's mafia, but it might have been an older game.)
I always have a hard time reading WF, but he is definitely an asset to town if he’s town. I personally want to pursue a claim from Barney. He always hides behind the scenes regardless of his affiliation. Last game was brutal for me to watch especially since it seemed like he was just skating by.

Downside is that if we lynch whiteflame and are wrong, we lose a good (and generally proactive) player for the town early on. I'm not saying it's definitely him, but how he's behaved so far is how I'd expect him to behave as a scum player.
I think we should ask JoeBob what he thinks and then move on from there.

VTL Barney for now
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Might as well get some information out of Barney if he's going to play this passively.

VTL Barney
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@Savant
All I can say is that I've been busier recently than I usually have with my in-laws in town and work, and that I'm more cautious about my reads coming out of the last game. In that sense, yes, I have been more passive. I have also been responding to the relevant posts and engaging where and when I can, though you'll note from previous games that I've rarely been too active in scum hunting for DP1. Last game was a bit of an outlier.
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@whiteflame
Fair enough. In Indie Games mafia you were town and accused 7000series in the first few hours of DP1 (don't know if that's what you mean by the last game, since Battlebots was after that). But psychoanalysis is a tricky thing, so I won't press the issue for now.
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@whiteflame
Suffice it to say that I'm going to wait and see if we can verify it during the NP, since that seems plausible given the claim.
Fair enough and the optimal play
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Not a big fan of the whole forcing Barney to claim thing. I think we should focus more on behavior first
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Not a big fan of the whole forcing Barney to claim thing. I think we should focus more on behavior first
Who do you think is being suspicious right now
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You should vote Barney for at least a role claim.
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Tell us who to lynch so that we can blindly obey you.
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Since there is a defined theme split in this game of protag and antag. I think we can come to a conclusion on who is likely a protag vs antag and who I can see being a borderline

Protag
Andressa
Amber Bennett (despite a lot of peoples disliking toward her I think she's protag)
William Clockwell
Bulletproof
Debra Grayson
Art Rosenbaum
Atom Eve
Rus Livingston
Shrinking Rae
Cecil Stedman
Monster Girl
Black Samson
The immortal
Rex-Splode
Robot
Shapesmith
Damien Darkblood
Allen the Alien
Invincible
Dupli-Kate

Antag
Kursk
Salamander
Komodo Dragon
The Mauler Twins
Supreme Lizard
Killcannon
General Kregg
Omni Man
Thragg



There are some grey areas too, so I highlight some who could be seen as antag's and are grey areas



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@Best.Korea
Idk yet I just got back from school.
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Antag
Kursk
Salamander
Komodo Dragon
The Mauler Twins
Supreme Lizard
Killcannon
General Kregg
Omni Man
Thragg
If anyone has any one of these roles, you need to SOP claim asap
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@Savant
You should vote Barney for at least a role claim.
I'm fine with getting another role claim. VTL Barney
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@ILikePie5
If anyone has any one of these roles, you need to SOP claim asap
To clarify, those are characters, but mine is not one of them.

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@whiteflame
To clarify, those are characters, but mine is not one of them.
I’m honestly just trusting Supa on this and townread the hell out of him for even doing it.

So your character is not one of the antagonists, correct?
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Official Vote Count:

Barney- 3/5- iLikePie5, savant, Whiteflame
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@Barney
If you don’t get on in the next hour I’m voting you as well.

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@ILikePie5
Correct, though I doubt that Luna's theme split is going to be that cut and dried.
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@JoeBob
If Vader is right about theme split, I should be able to confirm I am town tonight.
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@ILikePie5
I think trying to force an early claim from Barney seems scummy from you tbh. Something doesn't feel quite right about it.
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I townread Savant and whiteflame slightly based on the fact they forgot to read the OP.
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@AustinL0926
I think trying to force an early claim from Barney seems scummy from you tbh. Something doesn't feel quite right about it.
Well, we do need to find 1 player who has non-confirmable role this dp to lynch him, and the sooner we find him, the better.

And if we are lucky, we wont reveal some important and confirmable roles, because its not in our interest to reveal any town role, its just that revealing town role is often collateral damage from trying to reveal non-confirmable role.

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So the setup is

7 - 2.

5  - 2

3 - 2

So town can pretty much afford 3 mislynches, which is greatly in favor of town, as usually we can afford only 2.

Now, if we lynch only non-confirmable and highly suspicious roles, this should be easy, as from what I see, there are at least half town roles which are confirmable.
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@AustinL0926
forgot to read the OP.
Not sure what this is referring to.

Edit: Nvm
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@AustinL0926
I think trying to force an early claim from Barney seems scummy from you tbh. Something doesn't feel quite right about it.
Let me ask you again: who’s behavior before I posted do you find suspicious and want to pursue. Otherwise, help pressure Barney
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@AustinL0926
I townread Savant and whiteflame slightly based on the fact they forgot to read the OP.
Is there a reason why Barney is not on that list?