Should dogs be treated better than pigs in our society?

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Killing pigs for food when plenty of alternatives exist: Pretty much everyone does this solely for the nominal increase in taste pleasure.

Killing a dog because the dog was destroying a bunch of stuff and the dog was untrainable: Both major parties condemn Kristi Noem for this.

Lets just treat dogs and pigs equally; pigs are smarter.
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I dont really care if my food is smart, unless pigs can solve some complicated problems, which they cant.

They eat dogs in China. Cook dogs alive or burn dogs alive, then eat them.

I even saw a video of a guy burning a dog alive with something like a flamethrower.
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People kill billions of animals a year.

Unless you are a vegan who is slowly dying from B12 deficiency, I really dont see what you have to complain about about Kristi Noem.
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What a thread...

They don't regularly eat dogs in China. There are a billion people there, there are always going to be some people doing some thing.
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They don't regularly eat dogs in China
Yeah, just sometimes, after burning them alive with a flamethrower.

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Also, Kristi Noem is a woman.
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People kill billions of animals a year.
Not all animals are equally worthy of existing and not all inter-species relationships have the same implications.


I really dont see what you have to complain about about Kristi Noem.
We're pack animals (or troop animals I guess), so are dogs.

It rubs our instincts the wrong way to integrate an animal into our pack/troop and then treat them like they're worthless. It should. Loyalty is a baseline social virtue.
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Also, Kristi Noem is a woman.
*mind explodes*

They do exist....

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Not all animals are equally worthy of existing
Well, sure, so we get to decide.

We're pack animals (or troop animals I guess), so are dogs.
So we are dogs?

It rubs our instincts the wrong way to integrate an animal into our pack/troop and then treat them like they're worthless.
Its not worthless. Dog meat has high price in China.

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They do exist
I am just saying that women are more worthy than men when it comes to good and bad actions.

Women can be forgiven more of their bad actions.
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The real question is should chickens be treated better than dogs, since this particular dog was eating chickens....
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The real question is should chickens be treated better than dogs, since this particular dog was eating chickens....
Humans eat chickens too, but they usually pay money for chicken meat first, usually by going to the store.
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If people ate dogs, they probably would have more utilitarian value.
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@Greyparrot
The real question is should chickens be treated better than dogs, since this particular dog was eating chickens....
I think dogs should be treated better than chickens, but I don't think this is the real question.

We kill pigs for taste pleasure; all pig nutrients can be obtained through different means.  This is even if the pigs don't harm other animals.

You ask the typical American if it's ok to kill and eat pigs, most would not only approve, but they would personally do it.

You ask the typical American if it's ok to kill and eat dogs, most would not only disapprove, but they would say it's like killing a human being.

Pigs should get treated equally to dogs.

But seriously dude; if you want to talk to me, then unblock me.
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Unless you are a vegan who is slowly dying from B12 deficiency, I really dont see what you have to complain about about Kristi Noem.
I'm vegan; I don't complain about her as I think it should be legal to execute any innocent animal for food (exceptions being humans, other primates, and dolphins).  I'm not going to die of B12 deficiency; I take a supplement.
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We're pack animals (or troop animals I guess), so are dogs.
Speak for yourself; I'm a sigma male and shouldn't get killed for it.
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But seriously dude; if you want to talk to me, then unblock me.
Sure, just don't ask me about my personal details or ask for private information again. I don't need real life drama.
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I'm vegan
Thats impressive. Most people arent strong enough to be vegan, as it takes huge mental discipline to resist meat and milk as those are tasty.

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I don't need real life drama.
Alright; can you address my other points?
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What's wrong with impossible meat and chocolate almond milk?  Or Orange Juice?

For me, it's extremely easy.
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I think it's kinda pathetic and often a failure when they try to pretend they've found a substitute. There is no substitute (especially for milk).

Instead of trying to revive a frankenstien cuisine they should just pick from the many time tested recipes that just work without pretending to be something else.

Almond milk is an excellent example. Wretched stuff. Almonds aren't wretched, you can make a lot of good things with almonds sweet and savory; but that 'milk' is inferior to water with white dye.
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Instead of trying to revive a Frankenstein cuisine
I've had chocolate almond milk before, and at least for me, it tastes pretty good (and you don't have to kill baby calves for it, which was my reason for making the switch).

I also like Orange Juice; I get Calcium and Vitamin C.
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and you don't have to kill baby calves for it, which was my reason for making the switch
Just call it a late term abortion.

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I want abortion to be banned.  But it's not the same because:

  1. The Calf is outside of the mother's womb when killed.  Partial birth abortion I think over 90% of people want to outlaw from both parties.
  2. I'm personally "pro life" on animal killing for food; I'm politically "pro choice" on this.  If being personally pro life counts as a fetal vegan; then 84% of the US population has been a fetal vegan all of their lives and the 16% that aren't maybe have killed 1-3 unborn individuals in their lives.  Pretty much every vegan has had dozens of animals killed on their behalf, but they merely stopped; pretty much every parent of an aborted baby gets maybe 1-3 abortions done in their lives and never continues.

In our current society, zygotes get treated better than farm animals.

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Dogs are trainable.

But some people are stupid.

Pork is an established food stuff.

Dogs are an established ally.

Such is the way things are.

Things might be different.

Lot's of things might be different.

But let me make it clear.

These are not rules 

And certainly not globally established ideas and practices.


And zygotes largely go unnoticed.

Embryos tend to be more significant.



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pigs cant hunt and arent the most affectionate of animals.
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I'm not sure this is relevant or even entirely accurate.  Like some dogs are assholes and some pigs are nice.  Hunting isn't too needed in our society and most people don't do it.  Most dogs can't hunt.
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Nice doesnt mean affectionate
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Some people are assholes.

And will train dogs to be assholes.

Though, one persons asshole is another persons demigod.

And dogs and pigs will behave according to circumstance.