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If moozer or joebob was scum and Austin was genuinely innocent than he would be at L1 today and I can't imagine that they are both town players. -WYLTED
Also posts like these make me suspicious, feels like Wylted already has knowledge of Moozer and Joe's alignments somehow.
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@Moozer325
Ironic that Austin and Luna are sussing Earth for being inactive, since doing that is part of what made them lynch me a few games ago.
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brb, gone for 20

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Specifically you two have the power to change my mind.
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@AustinL0926
. I just genuinely don't get how you would think I would claim a Miller as a brilliant strategy
link to post where anyone claimed it was brilliant 
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@WyIted
I was being sarcastic because it'd be a dumb thing to do as scum.
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@Savant
What about whiteflame? He's an experienced player.
I see you as a smart player and you do everything based on logic, which is how I am a lot. Behavior seems to take a bit of a backside with you but I think with experience you will find a happy medium. I think you have the potential to be a great mafia player though if you can find the balance
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I gave that at length already, but I'll do it again. If I believed I'd be a likely mislynch the next DP, I'd double down on my efforts to get NK'd, particularly with a claimed Cop on the board who is likely to be protected during the night. Softclaiming a confirmable PR would have been a better move since you could have drawn the NK. Now you can't, and I think you know well enough that just straight claiming Miller at this point was bound to get you lynched this DP or next, but if you're town and didn't think that, then discarding your effort to distract the NK still makes you virtually worthless to town while significantly moving you up the sus list at a point where everyone else is still split on their choices for a lynch. Not a great play.
Fine, if you want some vulnerability here, I like playing mafia and I think I'm pretty good at it. I want to survive and scumhunt, so yes, it was probably selfish of me not to draw the NK which might be optimal for town. I honestly believe that I'm one of the better scumhunters here and that I would make the right decision in DP2 or LYLO, and I'd prefer for things not to end either in flames (Savant copping a mislynch) or me dying before then.

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@AustinL0926
I agree with you that it would be dumb to do as scum unless scum have nothing to counteract a doctor or watcher and are near convinced they would be investigated. 
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@AustinL0926
It's a fair question though. If you're town, why haven't our other top scum reads voted for you earlier?
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^^ tag
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@Savant
What about whiteflame? He's an experienced player.
I see you as a smart player and you do everything based on logic, which is how I am a lot. Behavior seems to take a bit of a backside with you but I think with experience you will find a happy medium. I think you have the potential to be a great mafia player though if you can find the balance
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Official Vote Count:

Austin (4/5) - Savant, Casey, Wylted, Moozer
Earth (2/5) - Lunatic, Austin


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You had me and savant as scum and I know I am town and am fairly certain savant is, so I don't think you can be that good at scum hunting
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@Moozer325
Alright, I’ve made my decision. As tempting as it was to let you guys all keep vying for my vote, I had to choose eventually. From what I see, Earth is just an inactive PoE choice, and Austin has been really trying to dig up as much as they can on him. 

I don’t really want to lynch based on just PoE and inactivity, so I guess I’ll got for Austin. 

You can still maybe change my mind though.

VTL Austin

Moozer, what have I done that you feel is scummy? I legitimately don't understand and it's frustrating because I see you as a fairly reasonable player. I've been pro-town all DP, Savant and whiteflame and Lunatic admitted that the behavioral push on me earlier was flawed, and now I'm getting pushed for claiming in a way that I tried to help town despite not a single person explaining why I would possibly do that as scum.
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@Savant
It's a fair question though. If you're town, why haven't our other top scum reads voted for you earlier?
He can't know what is in their heads LOL
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@WyIted
You had me and savant as scum and I know I am town and am fairly certain savant is, so I don't think you can be that good at scum hunting
I had Savant as a slight scum and dropped it after his claim. I'm pretty sure you're scum. Fwiw, my D1 reads in the last few games have always included at least one scum within two.
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@Savant
It's a fair question though. If you're town, why haven't our other top scum reads voted for you earlier?
Savant, trying to make me look scummy through ridiculous questions like this is bs and you know it. And also, Wylted is my top scumread and he has voted for me.
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@WyIted
It's rhetorical. I think it makes Austin suspicious.
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@AustinL0926
Why don't you think that moozer is just opportunistic scum, who was scared to be on a towny lynch so he waited until the last minute to vote you?
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@WyIted
Why don't you think that moozer is just opportunistic scum, who was scared to be on a towny lynch so he waited until the last minute to vote you?
I think it's possible. At first I was townreading his hesistance but he jumped on my wagon for almost zero reason.
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@AustinL0926
I can wait until the last minute to vote

unvote 
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Anyone want to look at moozer again? 
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@Moozer325
Specifically you two have the power to change my mind.
I don’t know what more to say than what I’ve already said in Austin’s defense. I don’t see Austin making this play as scum because he is very calculated as scum and completely flew under the radar and obliterated town with really good fake claims in the two games I played with him where he was scum. I think town Austin is more likely to do what he did because of genuine worry of being copped. I 100% buy that mafia have a counter to cop, so until someone can find me a copious amount of pie games where mafia doesn’t have a counter to cop, I have no reason to believe scum Austin doesn’t just fake claim literally anything else if he is scum here and roleblock savant into oblivion, or lawyer or godfather up or whatever
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@Moozer325
Alright, I’ve made my decision. As tempting as it was to let you guys all keep vying for my vote, I had to choose eventually. From what I see, Earth is just an inactive PoE choice, and Austin has been really trying to dig up as much as they can on him. 
Can you explain your reasoning in any way for voting me? Like what the heck is "really trying to dig up as much as they can on him?"
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I will place final vote at 825 if I have to
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@whiteflame
Wylted has unvoted and will probably wait to hammer until the last minute. If you're going to vote Austin, probably better to do it now.
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@AustinL0926
Not a ton, but no one else has done more than that, so sorry, but in my eyes at least, you are the most scummy, especially when the alternative is just Earth.
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@AustinL0926
I thought you were town reading wylted?
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Official Vote Count:

Austin (3/5) - Savant, Casey, Moozer
Earth (2/5) - Lunatic, Austin


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