Trust the "Experts"

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Kamala was not the expert you hoped she would be.
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Kamala was not the expert you hoped she would be.

More hypebole barking at moon and avoiding the comments Ive actually made today,  before you fell off into more irrelevant, insignificant, false narrative expert of the short quip hyperbole. 

Trumpet > MAFA > Gaetz { pre-resigned } > Michael Flynn > Steve Bannon > and the other 140 {  or more }  he pardon > ...

...." Trump has repeatedly pledged to pardon the hundreds of his supporters charged for their involvement in the riots on the Capitol building in Washington, DC on January 6, 2021, in a violent attempt to overthrow the results of the 2020 election.

....Joseph Biggs is hoping to be one of them.

....Biggs is one of four Proud Boys leaders currently serving a prison sentence after he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy last year. At least 70 other members of the far-right extremist group were charged for participating in the violence.

....Last week Biggs’ attorney Norm Pattis requested that Trump grant his client a “complete pardon”. "....

Ahh the lizard-like people-underbelly of USA is about to be pardoned by the King lizard-like president elect.

Encore! Encore! Encore!
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@ebuc
Experts don't lose elections.

Kamala wasn't the expert you wished for.
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Encore! Encore! Encore!
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@Greyparrot
Experts don't lose elections.
Your expert has lost half of the elections in which he has run.
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I didn't vote for Trump.
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I didn't vote for Trump.
There is hope for you after all.
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The Russians are the experts in American politics. They won two terms for Trump.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So congratulations to those countries not run by "morons" who successfully kept COVID-19 out of their populations. Would they now come forward to receive our applause:

*crickets*
When you have to pretend to be this dumb or uniformed to defend your position, that's probably a good indication that you should change your position.

Keeping COVID out entirely was never an option. The goal for any reasonable country was to minimize it's spread in order to minimize it's death count until we could get a vaccine to the public.

So when Fauci was actually head of the response under Trump, what we he have done differently had Trump not stopped him?
It's not about what Fauci would have done differently, it's about what we all should have done differently. It's not a coincidence that once we got past the initial spread which of course was going to hit metro areas first, the red states all saw the highest death rates. Again, all Fauci could do was offer guidelines and direct agency resources. It's our behavior that ultimately determined the effect of the virus.

So arguments don't establish expertise and in practice neither do results since you just dismiss the facts if the "expert" failed to deliver results.
Wasn't his result to deliver, it was ours. You don't get to ignore what the health experts are telling you and then pretend it's their fault when the results are not what you think they should have been.

But many people are not effective communicators, that has little bearing on whether they know what they are doing.
It has a major impact on whether other people know that they know what they're doing.
It does, that's still irrelevant to whether they actually know what they're doing and should therefore be listened to.

"Trust the experts" refers to the claim that somebody knows a truth that you don't know and can't know because you're too stupid or uneducated. They supposedly have the best argument but it's not your role as a plebeian to understand it.
No, it doesn't. That's just you're the caricature of it you've sold yourself for whatever psychological needs it fulfills.

Trust the experts is a simple reminder to people that just because you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night doesn't mean you know what you're talking about, and we as a society are better off deferring to people who actually know what they're talking about because they actually put in the time and work required to understand it.

It is the height of hubris to think that you are qualified to assess every complex subject purely on the basis of which argument sounds better. As if it didn't in many cases take years of study and experience to fully understand the subject.

The funny thing about ignorance is that it has a way of flipping reality upside down to the person who is ignorant. When you don't understand something it always sounds stupid. 'Why should I get vaccinated of I'm probably going to get infected anyway? That's stupid'. Sure it is, to the idiot who doesn't understand that the main point of vaccine isn't to stop an infection but to stop the more severe consequences like hospitalizations and deaths.

In case I haven't already asked this directly of you: Was hippocrates an expert?
I know almost nothing about him, but sure, he was an expert for his time.
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Keeping COVID out entirely was never an option. The goal for any reasonable country was to minimize it's spread in order to minimize it's death count until we could get a vaccine to the public.
A made up goal inconsistent with history and biology.

It turned out exactly was would be predicted by actual science.


It's not a coincidence that once we got past the initial spread which of course was going to hit metro areas first, the red states all saw the highest death rates.
So discounting all the death in the blue cities the rest of the death was in red areas... durrrrhhh....


It's our behavior that ultimately determined the effect of the virus.
So by results you mean "I told you to do X and you didn't do exactly X therefore I'm an expert by default". Where are these results you spoke of?


deferring to people who actually know what they're talking about because they actually put in the time and work required to understand it.
Contrast with "somebody knows a truth"

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America was the epicentre of Covid . America led the world in Covid related deaths. Over 1.2 million Americans died from Covid. Trump claimed they found one case of Covid coming from China which led him to ban all flights to and from China after treating that individual. So the rest of the cases of Covid was a made America.