Albums Mafia: Track One (DP1)

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@Mharman
Mine talks about the album as a whole as well. It’s why I ended up pressing him for a bit more
The whole talk about justification is meaningless imo. You can easily fake any justification with millions of albums out there. You just need the claim to fit with the role, which is extremely easy and has a less than 1% chance of being counterclaimed.
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@Casey_Risk
What do you think happens if I get lynched? I'll just be back the next day with even less helpful input for the town. Other than finding out the end of day 2 that I am a treestump.
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I’m not gonna go for the Greyparrot lynch yet. I want Wylted claim first at the very least. We have a small amount for time.

3.5 hours. There’s a little bit of pressure but we can manage it well.
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@Greyparrot
So, why didn’t you tell town about your flip not being revealed to start with?

Also, is your end of day verdict going to be hidden as well?

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The only real inactive I see is Lunatic. Earth and Wylted (maybe Pie?) are just low posters to me.
I’m not inactive by choice. I have a problem with Earth right now. Haven’t seen anything from him at all, and he likes to lay low as scum if I remember correctly. He didn’t even bother responding to my vote on him, and goes straight into “I want Wylted’s claim” joining you and GP in the wagon. It’s hella opportunistic
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How are you feeling about Austin now?
I feel much better after seeing the OP Post and explanation of the anti-claim. Right now I scumread Earth
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Haven’t seen anything from him at all, and he likes to lay low as scum if I remember correctly. He didn’t even bother responding to my vote on him, and goes straight into “I want Wylted’s claim” joining you and GP in the wagon. It’s hella opportunistic
Yeah that pinged my radar as well. Also I felt your activity was borderline, so not as bad as Earth’s. At least you showed up with intent to post more.

Anyway, what are your full reads? You can be quick if need be.
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Also, is your end of day verdict going to be hidden as well?
Yes, this is what I'm wondering, and you still haven't made it clear. 
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I have a problem with Earth right now. Haven’t seen anything from him at all, and he likes to lay low as scum if I remember correctly. He didn’t even bother responding to my vote on him, and goes straight into “I want Wylted’s claim” joining you and GP in the wagon. It’s hella opportunistic
That's fair. Earth is probably the player that I have the hardest time reading tbh. He never really posts that much as either alignment, and the posts that he does make are always very terse, which makes him hard for me to read. 
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Ok so I started the wagon. But Whiteflame was the first to put a big sus on Greyparrot I think
I think he voted GP after GP expressed sus on him and refused to elaborate? so it's more reactive imo
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@Mharman
Austin is getting townier as this goes on imo
I'm actually posting towny rn but also I'm irrationally paranoid that you expressed that right after I said I like to townread people who townread me :p

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@Greyparrot
what do you think of post 177?
From my own experience running UPicks and other themed games, I'd often stretch a justification or make a loose one in order to put in a role I wanted. I wouldn't read too much into it, especially considering how broad the entire concept of an album is.

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I’m not inactive by choice. I have a problem with Earth right now. Haven’t seen anything from him at all, and he likes to lay low as scum if I remember correctly. He didn’t even bother responding to my vote on him, and goes straight into “I want Wylted’s claim” joining you and GP in the wagon. It’s hella opportunistic
That does bother me a bit, it feels somewhat abrupt.
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I don't think I'll be voting [Casey, Mharman, Pie] today.

Leaving... [GP, WF, Earth, Luna, Wylted].

I'm clear on my policy in regards to inactives, so not Luna, and I have a slight TR on Wylted, at the very least more than several other players.

[GP, WF, Earth] is where I'm looking for now.

GP's claim reads as slightly towny, some of the specific aspects feel a bit too strange to be made up and seem like something that a mod not used to traditional DART roles might put in, rather than what a player used to traditional DART roles would fake. That doesn't entirely sound coherent, but what I'm trying to say is:

A Treestump that remains flipless is something that's very rarely seen on DART. I have made one, but GP wasn't playing in that game and I doubt he was spectating. But Treestump is a common role on MU and a lot of other site metas which I presume Cerulean is familiar with.

So I'm just not sure where GP would have gotten that idea from. (I mean, he could have gotten it from me if we're both scum, but I know that's not true)

His behavior bothers me though, it feels deliberately evasive.

I've given my thoughts on WF. It's a bit harsh to say he's in his scum meta, but he definitely hasn't left it. His passivity bothers me to an extent, as does his main push seemingly being a reaction to GP scumreading him, which at best is NAI.

It's also pingy, from a thread point of view, that there's been so little focus on him even when I brought him up several times.

Earth is... meh. I had a slight townlean but that's mostly disappeared. He could flip scum, he could flip town.
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2.5 hours
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@Lunatic
literally about to sleep what you want, info? I can give input right now. lynch me if you need to, ill try to be active dp2.
It's not that serious bro. 
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I'm actually posting towny rn but also I'm irrationally paranoid that you expressed that right after I said I like to townread people who townread me :p
? Yeah I think you’re posting towny too.

Anyway, townreading people who townread you is a stupid bias to have.
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Oh good, Wylted’s here.
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@Mharman
Still at work. Let me catch up. It's only a15 minute break
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Also, is your end of day verdict going to be hidden as well?

Good question if you go by the strict wording of what I said...(death wont be revealed till end of NEXT day) i guess it would be hidden.
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I don't think it's flipless. The exact wording of my pm says my death and role won't be revealed until the end of the next day...maybe it will say i am lynched but not killed??
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Ok 
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Austin told me not to claim. Sorry guys
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@Mharman
It's like OMGUS but worse tbh
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@Mharman
Above post. Austin said nor to claim
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@Greyparrot
I don't think it's flipless. The exact wording of my pm says my death and role won't be revealed until the end of the next day...maybe it will say i am lynched but not killed??
I mean, that makes sense. You say it won't reveal your death, is that specifically what it says? That seems weird.
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You should probably only claim if you're 100% going to get lynched, at least then even if you get nightkilled via anticlaim then you're dying anyway and town can use the lynch on someone who's actually scum.

I was mostly referring to not casually claiming for no reason like I've seen here.
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@Mharman
Fine I will claim since there is only a few hours left in the dp.

My album is Bad and I am not the opposite of a Miller but the opposite of that. 
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@WyIted
Why didn't you SOP claim that? 
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It's not scummy because it is the opposite of the opposite of a Miller and not necessarily a Miller, but I just believe in trying to draw in the NK but if there are a few votes on me, I will always claim it so the cop doesn't waste an investigation