How come the American left supports self determination for Canada and not for Crimea? If one consistently backed self determination, then they would not only support Canada being independent, but they would also support Crimea joining Russia (as well as any other areas that wanted to join Russia that are in Ukraine).If your primary ethos is self determination for national borders, then be consistent with it. But virtually nobody is.
My position is that what people want matters.I dont exactly pick rule of majority as a standard, but more like, each individual has wants and wants of each individual matter.
How is it applied in case of countries is complicated, but Canada is a better country than USA.
If USA tried to take Canada, that would be against Canada's wants and would only cause conflict.
Again, I dont feel too sorry for Canada here.
Why do you support self-determination for the United States and not for Canada?
Face it, all arguments used to justify US independence are either emotional or refutable.Rather than becoming North Mexico, I think Canada should annex the United States, we will also need to rename the gulf again, The Gulf of Canada.
Every individual has wants. How do you measure it when it's a collection of individuals?
Same is true for Ukraine holding onto Crimea; most Crimeans are against it.
Then don't defend their independence
Every individual has wants. How do you measure it when it's a collection of individuals?By respecting wants of each to some degree.
Same is true for Ukraine holding onto Crimea; most Crimeans are against it.Sure.
Then don't defend their independenceWhy wouldnt I?
That's vague. Be specific.
So do you want Crimea to join Russia? If so, then you got cancelled by the left.
Because you said you don't like Canada
Why do you support self-determination for the United States and not for Canada?Americans want independence; right. But lets say the US didn't have self determinationism. Who would control us? Mexico? Mexico speaks Spanish and the US speaks English; I'd rather not.
If the US were to get annexed by Canada, then I'd be fine with that; the only difference between Canada annexing the US and vice versa is the name, the flag, and the stereotypical colors (all irrelevant stuff).
There would be a vote as to if the US or Canadian constitution should take over (the American one just makes more sense; each state gets 2 senators; house of representatives is based on population; Canada has an unequal number of senators per province (even where provinces like NB have more senators than provinces like AT despite NB having way less people) and representatives aren't proportional to population). America has term limits; Canada does not.
Canada also has like 1/8 the population of the US, and it makes more sense for the bigger nation to annex the smaller one than vice versa.
But who would take US sovereignty? It would have to be a larger Anglophone nation, and no Anglophone nation is larger than the US.
Face it, all arguments used to justify US independence are either emotional or refutable.Rather than becoming North Mexico, I think Canada should annex the United States, we will also need to rename the gulf again, The Gulf of Canada.Mexico speaks Spanish; the US speaks English; we should be separate.
Canada has 1/8 the population of the US; it's like the difference between the EU annexing the UK and the UK annexing the EU. The former makes sense; the ladder is a nonstarter.
So do you want Crimea to join Russia? If so, then you got cancelled by the left.Lol okay
That doesnt mean I want it to become part of USA.
Who cares?
R4:Who cares? Size doesn't matter, it's not the meat it's the motion.
R5:Emotional argument. Who cares?
Canada is the larger Anglophone nation, so Canada wins, eh.
Once Canada annexes the US, they will have the much larger population.
How come the American left supports self determination for Canada and not for Crimea? If one consistently backed self determination, then they would not only support Canada being independent, but they would also support Crimea joining Russia (as well as any other areas that wanted to join Russia that are in Ukraine).If your primary ethos is self determination for national borders, then be consistent with it. But virtually nobody is.
How come the American left supports self determination for Canada and not for Crimea?
How come the American left supports self determination for Canada and not for Crimea?Because Trump. That's as deep as their thinking goes. They see Trump support something so they do the opposite. The right hated Obama and we gave him our. Full support when he killed Saddam Hussein the left would never do the same.
even though the left thinks you're a fascist now
If the majority of Canadians wanted to join the US, then would you be on board with it?
Anyone that is against the US annexing Canada solely because most Canadians don't want it is really neutral on the issue
Every socialtial change at one point had less than 50% support; annexing Canada should be viewed no differently.
America has no say in the future of either country.
Because Trump.
Americans respect Canada more.
If the majority of Canadians wanted to join the US, then would you be on board with it?Maybe if 70% of people wanted it, and the rights of remaining 30% were guaranteed.
Anyone that is against the US annexing Canada solely because most Canadians don't want it is really neutral on the issueNeutral =/= againstI dont even know where you get these ideas.
The ladder is a non starter.
