Call of Duty: Black Ops Mafia DP3

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Oh shit it’s going down

I didn’t expect any form of secondary investigative whatsoever.  I thought Cop + some protective role + strengthener was OP.

My first thought was that if there is one, Earth’s makes more sense from a game design standpoint because it’s weaker, but the now that he’s added more to his claim it gets harder, because both can be pretty strong. 

Earth’s adjustment to his role does make the role more believable imo. I still hate the justification. As for Banana, who tf is Major Kitsch?

I still don’t care for Earth’s behavior, but I’ll admit I have basically nothing to go off of for Banana.

Is it possible that there’s no protective role? I feel like there’d have to be no protectives to make room for one of these extra roles. I’m not sure if it makes room for both. If there a protective and one of these roles exists anyway, I DEFINITELY don’t think there’s room for both.

Wondering if we’re witnessing a hard bus play. If we’re not, then I think Cerulean is the teammate. I still townread Whiteflame.



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Can Lunatic still talk in the Mason pm? Probably not, but if he can I’d love to hear his thoughts.
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@Cerulean
Full claim please
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For the record, I would’ve preferred you claim after Cerulean this DP. Too late
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I’m going after Cerulean. It was already the plan from last DP, and I’ve been given more reason to sus him, assuming you and Banana aren’t going for a crazy bus play
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Can Lunatic still talk in the Mason pm? Probably not, but if he can I’d love to hear his thoughts.
Luna asked about it over the NP, Pie had to tell him the answer in a DM, and at the start of this DP Luna had been removed, so that was my answer. He’s gone. I can only refer back to what he’s said up to now.
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I am the RSO on the blackbird during an important mission and guide people to and from locations, basically is my justification 
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Hey man, if you want to go after Cerulean don't let me stop you lmao.
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Also Whiteflame is confirmed town otherwise he bussed earth, and he was gunning for earth hard last day phase. It could be a bus but it seemed like he was genuinely frustrated with him. Partner of earth has to be mharman or cerulean
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I am the RSO on the blackbird during an important mission and guide people to and from locations, basically is my justification 
Want to get thoughts on the likelihood of this character being in this game, but he’s certainly a decent fit for the Tracker/Watcher.

Also Whiteflame is confirmed town otherwise he bussed earth, and he was gunning for earth hard last day phase. It could be a bus but it seemed like he was genuinely frustrated with him. Partner of earth has to be mharman or cerulean
I don’t see it as likely that Earth, who just claimed Cerulean moved, is scum buddies with Cerulean. There’s always the possibility that he just saw the writing on the wall and immediately moved to put distance between himself and his partner, just not what I’d expect. 
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Also, I will say that we SHOULD NOT VTNL today.

I will give the reason later this DP.
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Also, I will say that we SHOULD NOT VTNL today.

I will give the reason later this DP.
Noted. I have thoughts on optimal play this DP, but I’ll wait until Cerulean claims.
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Oh, unvote just in case some shenanigans are afoot. I know it’s 4 to lynch, but still, shouldn’t require vote pressure at this point to get claims.
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I expect a video of you eating shit by the end of day today 
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Gonna go ahead and full claim, cause why not at this point.

I’m Dr. Daniel Clarke, apparently I did a lot of work making the NOVA 6 gas and the Russians attempted to silence me for what I knew. However I escaped for the time being, which is why I’m the escape artist.
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I’m ready to lynch Earth here and now. I already wanted to get him last DP, but you guys had to test my ability. I won’t VTL because  of Whiteflame’s post, but just know that I’m ready to hammer whenever.
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Oh wait, it’s MYLO, just realized that. Still want the Earth lynch but let’s look into this a little more
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The shit eating was figurative
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Sure didn't sound that way when you said it
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How do you not figure out that’s it’s figurative lol

No one just literally eats shit.
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I am going to Unvote because Whiteflame pointed out that his role wouldn’t exist unless there was a roleblocker or redirect or something, which I honestly hadn’t thought of. And we have no one claiming to be blocked, so it there is a chance earth is telling the truth here. I’m willing to consider it at least.
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So for anyone who is confused about that last post from Banana, I was informed a couple of hours ago that Luna’s Mason role went through: she is now with me in the chat. We have been doing a bit of discussion over what’s happened so far and over our reads, which I can discuss more as the DP goes on.

Regarding the whole roleblocker/redirector issue, that’s a niggling doubt of mine. It’s unusual to have a Strengthener in any game, let alone one without a town RB. Makes me concerned that scum have more manipulation roles in play.
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I'm confused on the potential effects a redirector could have on my role. I still think it is odd that there is a cop, a fancy MD and a 1x watcher/tracker, but it does make me think.

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@Earth
I'm confused on the potential effects a redirector could have on my role. I still think it is odd that there is a cop, a fancy MD and a 1x watcher/tracker, but it does make me think.
Yeah, there are a lot of factors I'm considering. How it would affect your role to redirect or otherwise manipulate it, I do not know.

As for the existence of three different investigative roles, yeah, that's something that sticks out to me as well. It's possible to balance that by just giving scum a mess of counters, but that seems excessive.

Anyway, going to think about it tomorrow, calling it a night.

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I asked Pie if my role can be affected by a redirector and he said yes.
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@whiteflame

I am the RSO on the blackbird during an important mission and guide people to and from locations, basically is my justification 
Want to get thoughts on the likelihood of this character being in this game, but he’s certainly a decent fit for the Tracker/Watcher.
I've been perusing the wiki during the game to evaluate some of the claims people have made. Did some surface-level research over there as well. Neitsch is a character I didn't even know about. Odds seems low, since Neitsch plays a very minor role in the plot, if any at all. Yes, he's a playable character, but our characters and justifications seem to be in this game based on prevalence in the plot. Even someone minor like your character plays a greater role, reading up on the missions they were involved in. Incentives to go for a MYLO CC aside, this is the problem I have with Banana's claim.
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Regarding the whole roleblocker/redirector issue, that’s a niggling doubt of mine. It’s unusual to have a Strengthener in any game, let alone one without a town RB. Makes me concerned that scum have more manipulation roles in play.
I think it’s a given scum has an RB or a redirector of some kind, but I disagree it necessitates anything beyond Cop+protective/extra investigation+strengthener for town in the setup. It’s already a pretty strong town corp, especially if there is a protective role, which there usually are in these games
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@Cerulean
Don’t love that you were on an hour ago and didn’t post.