Premarital sex may not be unbiblical

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Remember that Hitler gave out belt buckles to his troops that said, " God Is With Us".
Nazis were not christian. If you look at what they actually talked about it was an (even more) insane mess of contradictions and nonsense. In christian terms the worst than the five next worst heresies combined.

You didn't really think they worshiped a jew did you?

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Remember that Hitler gave out belt buckles to his troops that said, " God Is With Us".
Some Christians exterminated countless religious groups from the very start of their religion. It wasnt by any peaceful means that polytheism in Europe was eradicated. They introduced countless laws which made polytheism impossible, and gave death penalties or severe punishments to anyone who practiced polytheism back then. When Christians praise the spread of Christianity, they are probably clueless about how it spread.
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Some Nazis, such as Hans Kerrl, who served as Hitler's Minister for Church Affairs, advocated "Positive Christianity", a uniquely Nazi form of Christianity that rejected Christianity's Jewish origins and the Old Testament, and portrayed "true" Christianity as a fight against Jews, with Jesus depicted as an Aryan.
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Of course it is. They just need to pick the right excuses, and they have many times.
Not really. It wasnt until strong decline of Christianity that any freedom was achieved.


Jesus was a pacifist, and anyone who follows him into pacifism is no obstruction to achieving liberty (though they don't help either).
Yes, Jesus was a pacifist. Christians arent. The main problem is that the rest of the Bible is NOT pacifist, and the rest of the Bible also counts.
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"Positive Christianity", a uniquely Nazi form of Christianity that rejected Christianity's Jewish origins and the Old Testament, and portrayed "true" Christianity as a fight against Jews, with Jesus depicted as an Aryan.
like I said, making the mormons seem orthodox.

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I appreciate you exposing The at least high ranming Nazis as fake Christians.

However, genuine Protestants did enable them. It was the Catholivs who not only resisted Hitker from the get go in the 1930s but who were most responsible for the Nazis having trouble finding the ones hiding in the basement.

Again, thank you for defending the faith but another angle is to see Protestantism vs Catholicism in the ugliest example arguably ever.

I also think there is 0 doubt that the war of Iraq was more Protestant driven than anything Catholic. Nonetheless, Crusades lign ago imply something and thus all I see is a pattern that between the 2, Protestants don't know when and how to stop evil nearly as consistently and well as Catholics do.

Yes, UK was largely Protestant but the frontline was a lot of Caholivs and of course the French were Catholic.

Mussolini's Italy was not nearly the same level of barbaric turannic as Hitler's Germany. It was bad but not as bad, especially for lgbtq.
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Premarital sex is bad for your mental health regardless, so people shouldn't do it.
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Premarital sex is bad for your mental health regardless, so people shouldn't do it.
Marriage isnt that great. Especially when you realize that people get uglier over time, and then you need to divorce.
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What are your religion's beliefs? Is there a website or video for your sect of Sun God Paganism?

Maybe to save you I need to see that to prove it wrong first.
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What are your religion's beliefs? Is there a website or video for your sect of Sun God Paganism?
I believe in many Gods, not just in Sun God. Sun God religion is based on worship of fire and Sun, and doing fire magic, not that someone like you would be any interested in it.
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I am interested in wrong religions. I believe we need to understand them to then know why they are wrong or not and to save the believers requires first to understand how and why they believe in it.

When/if I have children and am raising them (not specifying here if that has happened ever) I will make sure to gradually not instantly at a very young age, explain wrong religions to them. I will encourage them to ask questions and explain why I as a man who grew up non Catholic and thought it was wrong, came to realise it is the 1 true way to understand God and our reality.

Of course, I will be devastated if they become atheists, Muslims etc. However, until the day I die my son(s) and/or daughter(s) should feel comfortable conversing with me on this (God-willing I do not get such dementia where I cannot guide them and debate).

I will also be sure that my wife knows I intend on this style of raising them. Meaning yes Catholicism is the 1 true faith but I shall not ban them reading other scriptures and ideas, I shall insist they tell me all they read and let me deradicalise them from it.

I shall warn them of the pitfalls and dangers in other faiths and give examples of the regimes that ran and/or run on them.
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I am interested in wrong religions. I believe we need to understand them to then know why they are wrong or not and to sabe the beleivers requires first to understand how and why they believe in it.
So if I never tell you about my religion, then you can never prove it wrong?

Also, given that Christians practiced fire magic by burning food, I really look forward to you proving that wrong.
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So if I never tell you about my religion, then you can never prove it wrong?
To you, yes. To others, I would say you not being able to explain any of it implies it is a lie.
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To others I would say you not being able to explain any of it implies it is a lie.
Well, sure, you can think that.
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Yes I can
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Yes I can
But then you cant save me.

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Catholics only need to try to save those open to it, they are not obligated to push the unwilling too hard and if anything that drives them away.

Do you want to convert? I sincerely mean it when I tell you, Catholic faith and works/lifestyle will save you.
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Cathooics only need to try to save those open to it
Your original plan for saving me was based on me telling you all about my religion so you can prove it wrong. But since I didnt tell you, you couldnt prove it wrong and plan failed.

The plan was mentioned in this comment:
"Maybe to save you I need to see that to prove it wrong first"
So saving was conditioned on proving wrong, which was conditioned on seeing, which didnt ever happen.

Thus, my religion cannot even be proved wrong and I cannot ever be saved due to conditions not being met. You need to know in order to disprove.
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Do you want to convert?
No, my religion is much better.

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 Especially when you realize that people get uglier over time,
OMG, you're talking about Ivana Trump, aren't you?
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OMG, you're talking about Ivana Trump, aren't you?
Yes!
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You can still be saved for 1 simple reason:

This is the true religion.

That reason extends to mean that Holy Spirit can fill you when you allow it and feel you need some help. Christ will give the signs, Father will shake things up to give you the urge to change for the better and also the clearer path to do so.

Trust the process. Truth the Trinity.
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You can still be saved for 1 simple reason:

This is the true religion.
I dont think so.


That reason extends to mean that Holy Spirit can fill you when you allow it and feel you need some help.
It can fill me?


Christ will give the signs, Father will shake things up to give you the urge to change for the better and also the clearer path to do so.
So no working plan.

Trust the process. Truth the Trinity.
I have to trust it too? Damn, your plan will fail for sure then.
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Holy Spirit is actually the only one of the 3 that is literally omnipresent at ALL times except in Hell.

So Jesus and Father alone are not physically being everywhere at all times they let themselves do that through Holy Spirit usually. Holy Spirit is a third person that is hard to explain fully as I am not experienced enough with the Catholic doctrine and do not wish to risk heresy on a site like this where it will stay up long-term.

Holy Spirit is a coequal 3rd person but when we say equal, HS is clearly the least dominant person of the 3. The reason is that he comes from both Father and Son according to Catholics and is a unified agent of them most of the time. He is how we feel God's presence the most (sometimes we can feel Jesus, Father alone rarely is felt, more so seen through actions). Holy Spirit has the role of being the antiSatan a lot more than Jesus or Father alone do. Satan is here possessing us and running+enabling evil. Holy Spirit is a superior entity. While Holy Spirit fills you, Satan cannot (at first) but Holy Spirit takes good eorks and firm faith to maintain.
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Holy Spirit is actually the only one of the 3 that is literally omnipresent at ALL times except in Hell.

So Jesus and Father alone are not physically being eberywhere at all times they let themaelves do that through Holy Spirit usually. Holy Spirit is a third person that is hard to explain fully as I am not experienced enough with the Catholic doctrine and do not wish to risk heresy on a site like this where it will stay up long-term.

Holy Spirit is a coequal 3rd person but when we say equal, HS is clearly the least dominant person of the 3. The reason is that he comes from voth Father and Son according to Catholics and is a unified agent of them most of the time. He is how we feel God's presence the most (sometimes we can feel Jesus, Father alone rarely is felt, more so seen through actions). Holy Spirit has the role of being the antiSatan a lot more than Jesus or Father alone do. Satan is here possessing us and running+enabling evil. Holy Spirit is a superior entity. Whike Holy Spirit fills you, Satan cannot (at first) but Holy Spirit takes Good Works and firm faith to maintain.
So I cannot be possessed by both Holy Spirit and Satan at the same time?

Maybe I will just keep switching. One minute Holy Spirit, the next minute Holy Satan.
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So I cannot be possessed by both Holy Spirit and Satan at the same time?
Correct.
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Maybe I will just keep switching. One minute Holy Spirit, the next minute Satan.
One minute is an exaggeration but most of us do fluctuate hence everyone is a sinner.
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One minute is an exaggeration but most of us do fluctuate hence everyone is a sinner
So even you are possessed by Satan sometimes. Are you possessed by Satan now?

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Not to my knowledge right now. He often has a way in if my guard is down.

Also, you asked possessed by both at same time. To be at the level with Holy Spirit where one has pure divine inspiration is severe and tends to only occur just after church, prayers or severe events. Usually it is indeed a mix. However the more HS fills us, the more toxic our soul becomes for that duration, for any demon or Satan himself.
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However the more HS fills us, the more toxic our soul becomes for that duration, for any demon or Satan himself
I dont want to be toxic, so I wont let holy spirit ever fill me or go anywhere near church.