Jet Fighters Mafia - DP2

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VTL Banana

Full claim please

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1. ILikePie5: Non Stealth
2. whiteflame: J-36 - JOAT: 1x Commuter, 2x RB, 1x BD
3. Lunatic - Saab 37 Viggen: 1x Journalist
4. WyIted - ME262 - Miller
5. Moozer325 - HAL Tejas - Vanilla
6. iamanabanana: F-16 - ???
7. Mharman: Non Stealth


Mikal - MIG-21 - Follower
That2User - F117 Nighthawk - Godfather

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@ILikePie5
Sure. I’m down to mass claim tho… something I considered outing last DP.
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Just reread DP1 in relation to That2. Most notably, That2 heavily pushed an early Whiteflame Lynch. It seemed much to hard of a push to be bussing. Obviously whiteflame's claim sucks, but this behavior confuses me a bit. Luna and Pie also pushed an early softclaim from That2 so that gives slight town cred to them IMO. Not a ton though. 

My big takeaway from this is that I'm not as sure about Whiteflame by now.
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So what specifically made you wonder if I was cop, over anyone else?
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@ILikePie5
This is a genuine question, is there a reason you haven't claimed yet? 
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Yeah if we’re mass claiming I want Pie to go first. He’s the guy who suggested it

VTL Pie

Full claim or die. I’ll go right after you, we can save Banana for last
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@Moozer325
This is a genuine question, is there a reason you haven't claimed yet? 
I want to go last as usual. At this point you everyone should realize that I would never advise That2 to pull that dumb move. My guess is the partner is you or Banana based on the dumb idea. That’s why I want Banana to go and then Mharman since he’s basically connected with WF
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@Mharman
Yeah if we’re mass claiming I want Pie to go first. He’s the guy who suggested it

VTL Pie

Full claim or die. I’ll go right after you, we can save Banana for last
I did not suggest it. Luna did. And I gave a reason in my most recent post
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I would never advise That2 to pull that dumb move
I don’t think anyone here would. I think That2 did that without consulting her teammate
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I did not suggest it. Luna did
Oh. I still want you to go first anyway
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@ILikePie5
Tag see above. Also, Banana did soft claim character earl, while I don’t like your sheeping from earlier
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I get that That2 also claimed unnecessarily but Bsnana softed in a specific way and wasn’t cced 

The reason I tend to townread early character claims is bc when mafia does it, they run into the exact risk that burned Thst2... so I’m not confident Banana took the risk, just bc That2 did

Other than that, not much to read Banana on
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Let’s get Pie to go first between he, Banana and I. If his claim is good I might consider having Banana claim before me, since he really wants Banana to claim… but if you really want me to claim before Banana, that’s fine.

If you need a reason to trust me not going first, will again say that I was considering fullclaiming last DP, and you’ll see what I mean when I do claim.
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@ILikePie5
If you can give a reason to go last based on your role, that would be fine, but it looks like you just want to go last for the sake of it. If you don't tell us why that just makes you look suspicious.
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If you can give a reason to go last based on your role, that would be fine, but it looks like you just want to go last for the sake of it. If you don't tell us why that just makes you look suspicious.
Just trust me. You reek town to me. Have a little trust. I basically got That2 lynched with the Stealth/Non Stealth. Mharman literally townread That2 lmao. Banana/Mharman, then me
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@Mharman
Let’s get Pie to go first between he, Banana and I. If his claim is good I might consider having Banana claim before me, since he really wants Banana to claim… but if you really want me to claim before Banana, that’s fine.

If you need a reason to trust me not going first, will again say that I was considering fullclaiming last DP, and you’ll see what I mean when I do claim
You literally townread That2 lmfaooo. You should always be going before me considering my theme soft claim idea caught scum
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@Mharman
So what specifically made you wonder if I was cop, over anyone else?
Similar behavior to Russian mafia, you seemed like you were kind of coasting under the radar, I figured it was either scum motivated or you were a power role and trying not to draw attention to yourself so you could get a result. It’s basically the same logic that had me assume you were a power role in Russia mafia. Plus POE. I figured it was between you moozer and Mikal, bananas character didn’t strike me as a cop.
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@Mharman
I don’t think anyone here would. I think That2 did that without consulting her teammate

Cool, then you can claim first. You’re the scummiest out of the three of us anyways

VTL Mharman
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@ILikePie5
The reason I townread That2 is because I tend to townread early character claims, because scum takes a risk and has little overall incentive to do so.

There’s a reason why Mikal was shocked That2 would claim like that… it’s a stupid move as mafia and that’s why I townread her before the CC.
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@ILikePie5
You are objectively the scummiest one reminding lol. It’s not even close.
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@Lunatic
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@iamanabanana
Help me get Mharman’s full claim. 
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@Mharman
You are objectively the scummiest one reminding lol. It’s not even close.
Youre actually high lol. I directly caused That2 to get CCed while you townread on the basis of WIFOM
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@ILikePie5
How tf did you cause That2 to get CCed lol
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Help me get Mharman’s full claim. 
No, I'm not going to just blindly trust you. I know that this is how you play the game, I learned that my first time playing, but even then you claimed to be confirmable.

You reek town to me. Have a little trust
This feels like you trying to outright flatter me. 

Look, I townread you, but that's just DP1 behavioral reads. It's not enough for me to blindly trust you. If you and Mhar had agreed to claim at roughly the same time, that would have been fine, but now you're trying to stand on this hill of claiming last which honestly makes me want you to claim first.
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@Mharman
I'd prefer you go last given the RB. Between Banana and Pie, I don't have a preference who goes first.
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@ILikePie5
Oh, and yes, I did initially townread That2 based on what I expected her to do if she were mafia… almost as if that’s part of how the game is played.

Atrocious logic here
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If we are mass claiming then I am the F-16 fighting falcon which is one of the most commonly used fighter jets. I am a double voter and my vote counts as two automatically but will not be reflected on a vote count. If someone is at l-1 and my vote is on them, they will appear to be lynched without all votes on them.
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Let’s go for Pie then