Jet Fighters Mafia - Endgame

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Mikal - MiG-21 - First introduced in 1959, the MiG-21 operated during a period in which the Soviets may have had the both a quantitative and qualitative advantage in air combat. MiG-21 is the most widely built jet fighter ever, at over 13000 built (including license built variants), and widely exported. The MiG-21 was cheap and easy to maintain, and was able to fly at over Mach 2, though it had poor range and reliability. You were frequently used as in an interceptor role in addition to a fighter. You are the follower. 

iamanabanana - F-16 Fighting Falcon - The American F-16 is a well-rounded late-cold war air superiority fighter. It's reliable, maneuverable, well-armed, has great electronics, and has good range for its size. It is the most widely operated aircraft in current day. "F-16 Fighting Falcon" is also the username of a skilled former DDO mafia player - for this reason you are the double voter.

Lunatic - Saab 37 Viggen - The Viggen is a Swedish fighter introduced in 1971. It was the first fighter produced in quantity to feature canards - stabilizers placed in front of the main wing. The canards on the Viggen allowed it to have better low-speed maneuverability and short-takeoff capability. The Viggen was also the first fighter to feature on onboard digital computer with a heads-up display, to aid the pilot in flight and combat tasks - because of the enhanced information, you are 1x journalist. Once per game you may target another player, and if they receive a role message that night, you will also receive a copy.

Mharman - Harrier - The Harrier "jump jet" is a British aircraft, design to operate off of small aircraft carriers and helicopter carriers. It is one of the few operational VTOL jet aircraft, meaning it can take off and land vertically. The Harrier is able to operate with no runway - for this reason you are 1x hider; you are compulsive, you are required to use your role on NP1.

ILikePie5 - F-2 - This Japanese aircraft was the result of collaboration between Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Lockheed Martin, as such it is very similar to the US F-16. Notably it was the first combat aircraft to integrate an AESA radar. AESA radars are several times more effective at detecting enemies while simultaneously being lower observable and harder to jam. You are 2x cop.

Moozer325 - Tejas - Tejas is India's first attempt at an indigenous modern 4th gen fighter. It features a single-engine, delta-wing configuration. Its development was plagued with problems and overruns, and to this day very few have been manufactured. However, it represents an important step in India's military hardware indigenization effort. You are vanilla.

WyIted - Me 262 - The Me 262 was a late WWII Nazi jet aircraft. It was the first jet fighter produced in quantity. Like many Nazi weapons at the time, the Me 262 was a bit too advanced for its time. Although 1000 were produced, it was not enough to change the results of the war. Because of your Nazi origins, you are the Miller.

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That2User - F-117 Nighthawk - The American F-117 fighter-bomber was the first aircraft be designed for all-aspect stealth. The F-117 was developed as secretive project and was highly advanced for its time. Its low radar cross section and reduced heat signature allowed it to evade both enemy radar and anti-air missiles. Low-observability is the foundation of air superiority doctrine to this day - You are godfather.

whtieflame - J-36 - The J-36 prototype was first spotted flying in Chengdu, China, late 2024. It is the first of the next-gen fighters in development that has been captured on video. Notable features of the J-36 include 3 engines, massive size, and the lack of a vertical stabilizer, suggesting that it's focused on electronics power generation, range, and stealth - You are JOAT; your abilities are 1x commuter (on nights you commute, you may not perform the NK), 1x roleblocker, 2x ninja.

Theme hint - the mafia is stealth fighters. If only one of you claim your real character, you probably won't be sussed too much. Here's a list of jet-fighters you might fake claim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fighter_aircraft anything after 1948 would fit in the theme.

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DP1
that2 lynched

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pie cop moozer
mharman hide behind pie
Mikal follow whiteflame
whiteflame NK Mikal, RB mharman
lunatic journalist mharman

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pie cop lunatic
whiteflame ninja kill pie

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Bad luck with the fake claim. 

I made a PM error at the beginning, I sent out a PM for Rafale - ascetic to both WyIted and Moozer:

Rafale - The French value independence, and they are the only western country other than the US to be able to design and manufacture their own fighter aircraft somewhat indigenously. Although the Rafale uses some American components, the most advanced parts like the engine and radar are French made. Today it is considered a high-end 4th gen fighter. Because of your independence, you are the ascetic.

This role was removed and replaced with Me 262 - miller, and Tejas - vanilla. Mafia was given some info to compensate for this.

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Pie called out the theme split immediately
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Well we got a freebie. Whiteflame will recover from this I’m sure, That2 has some work to do
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lol I made a mountain out of a molehill with Whiteflame cuz it’s never that easy. I guess sometimes it is though.
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Dude I fell for it at the end too cause I over analyzed something small I noticed
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I think we can conclude that there is no specific way in which Whiteflame is bad at fakeclaiming- he just has woes when it comes to that, in every way.
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Yeah, the long and short of it was that I just didn’t have any info to go off of beyond what we were informed about from the PM snafu. We were told not to claim Miller or Ascetic, though that didn’t do much to help when I got pushed to claim. I guess I should have just risked it with a protective claim, but I had no way to know that was free and clear at the time.
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Bruh. So not only was Mikal being town rigged, but the PM mistake meant scum had their fake claims limited by the mod. I guess it was better than just letting them fake claims limited those things and get destroyed after the PM mess up, but still

Game was cooked from the start 🥀 
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So, a couple of bits of feedback on this game:

Generally speaking (exceptions for CCs and SOP claims) if no one’s pushing you to claim, don’t claim. True whether you’re town or scum, but particularly important if you’re faking a claim. I thought when you mentioned your choice that you were just picking one in case you were pushed, but didn’t expect you to claim the way you did. Bad luck on the choice, but I think we could have worked out a better claim if we’d taken more time.

Also, much as it’s frustrating to get CC’d like this, that doesn’t mean it was the end of the game for you. I would have appreciated if you’d continued to bounce ideas back and forth with me in the scum chat after you’d been eliminated, and instead I ended up largely talking to myself. I do that regardless (anyone who’s been scum with me knows I tend to just write out my thoughts not expecting any specific feedback sometimes), but as someone who has fucked up their claim as scum multiple times and gotten eliminated early, it hasn’t stopped me from trying to assist in the game going forward, even if it didn’t amount to much.

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If there was an MVP I’d nominate Mikal. He didn’t do all that much, but no one did more than he. Tbh, none of us had to do much to win this one.
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To note was not town rigged. I would have played if I was scum. I was using that as wifom for town cred to Luna cus we always tunnel each other most times. 

The random claim without pressure was kinda wild. I don’t think she was being pushed for her character but just has to say stealth or non stealth. Only made sense when she flipped which made the stealth non stealth painfully obvious


Wanted to push whiteflame off the rip because it was very likely he would not risk a fake claim. 

The flip is what solved a lot of the game imo 

God father being in the game mostly validates a cop and miller. When pie flipped that all but confirmed wylted. From there I was poe between Luna and whiteflame and the stealth flipped kinda locked wf to scum. 
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Now I feel Dumb lol
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lol I made a mountain out of a molehill with Whiteflame cuz it’s never that easy. I guess sometimes it is though.

Yep crazy things the mind can do
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I raging when you posted Moozer/Luna. Lucky for us Banana clutched
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I raging when you posted Moozer/Luna
Yeah and I didn’t even know how to respond to that cuz he said I was scummy and there was things he picked up on but didn’t mention any of them, that was like the third time someone has insinuated I was scummy this game but failed to explain why which was frustrating lol. I get being in the POE and I semi expected the Wylted lynch to hurt me, even though I still agree it was good to get rid of the miller before lylo, since it was too much of an unknown.

Wild though, game was literally designed around a cop lol. My role, wylteds role, and that2users role literally all couldn’t exist without a cop. Didn’t think it would balance that way lol 
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Lucky for us Banana clutched
Lol I didn't do that much this game, but glad I helped.
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If there’s smoke and heat, there’s usually a fire lol
I mean yeah if it was any other person than whiteflame I might have bit, but idk after dominating a couple scum games with whiteflame I have uber tons of respect for his play style, and I never got behind the logic that he was "bad at fake claiming" fundamentally, so that was a hard pill for me to swallow lol. 
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I mean yeah if it was any other person than whiteflame I might have bit, but idk after dominating a couple scum games with whiteflame I have uber tons of respect for his play style, and I never got behind the logic that he was "bad at fake claiming" fundamentally, so that was a hard pill for me to swallow lol. 
Ya which is why he didn’t fake claim. He just claimed his true role lol
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WF has weak scumplay because his Town play is a lot stronger, that is the actual secret.

If he is playing the middle, nervous, passive, hesitant. He is probably scum. When he is Town he may seem hesitant but he reacts very proactive under pressure, very very differently.

Idk why others disagree with me on this. If WF seems like he is weak in the game in significant behavioural ways, he is usually Scum.

His so called weakness with fakeclaiming is linked to an aura he has when he is Scum.
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Is that RM. that’s a blast from the past 
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Yes that’s RM
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Yeah I can agree with that RM. 

Lunatic, I’ve correctly sussed/caught Whiteflame three times off his claims (other stuff too but the claims were always the first clue)… I’m not gonna count this one tho
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Yeah I can agree with that RM. 

Lunatic, I’ve correctly sussed/caught Whiteflame three times off his claims (other stuff too but the claims were always the first clue)… I’m not gonna count this one tho
I admit, it's a point of weakness. I've gotten better at other elements of being scum, but that's one I'm still working on.
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Whiteflame why you force us to play an extra DP lol
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Whiteflame why you force us to play an extra DP lol
Didn’t force anything. I literally voted myself and people just started migrating off of me the moment I did.
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My bad. I caused that