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@whiteflame
Yeah I don’t mind claiming when you guys want me to, that should be expected at this point. I will say off the bat that I’m 90% sure I’m confirmable.
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@Mharman
Gun to your head lynch order 
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Forgot about Pie. right in between Wylted and Mikal
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Eh.

Swap it like this actually 

Wylted
Pie
Mikal
Earth
Moozer
Austin
Banana
Whiteflame
Casey
Savant
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Why are you putting Austin at the bottom of your prio list? Near or with people you are town reading ?
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It’s close around the midpack. But Wylted is still at the top with Mikal and Pie as secondary options

Earth Whiteflame Banana, all slight. Wanna say Earth seems the scummiest.

Don’t like lynching inactives DP1. Would I be willing to lynch a slight town read over them? Not sure.

Savant looks good as town with Casey being secondary. 

And those are my  gun to head thoughts
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Bc I’m not sure how I evaluate and compare inactives to those I only think “slight X” on
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@Mharman
I want to read through Mharms posts again later. He still reads me as null because I am struggling to understand the intentions of his reads. 

If he is scum, I’d say there is probably a 90 percent chance a second scum is between moozer, Austin, or earth. 

I still think we get a claim today from this list 

Mharm 
Earth 
Austin 
Moozer 


With earth still being my top choice. 
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@Moozer325
Don't role claim yet. We still have a lot of time in d1, and it's best to claim sparingly.
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Rq:

Casey honestly isn’t as hard now that I think about it more.

The decision to out character information is once again interesting, looked towny but I went through a thought process where it could all be for town cred.

I saw the interactions with others, and what stands out to me is that she was nitpicking a few things, on Earth and Mikal. She does this on town cause she’s looking for every possible inconsistency, no matter how small.

That’s why I’ve decided she’s town.

On the subject of how much people would and wouldnt give out if they were scum, I think only one of Whiteflame/Casey/Banana can be scum. If we interpret their actions at the absolute worst, they’d all be basically fighting over who gets to use the scum fake claim, which makes little sense if they’re in a team together. I think we may have an unpairing. Might not be enough to say for sure, but worth noting imo
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I would strongly prefer not to role claim this DP

That’s all for now, I have to drive somewhere

Will finish the deep dives into the others later
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@Savant
You not wanting to force a claim is the only critique I have of your play at the moment. Again as mentioned we are going to have a claim come out because we have to lynch. 

Doing that late late in the dp advantages mafia and we also have less time to evaluate if we want to go through with the lynch based on the claim and what it provides. 


I feel like we have a solid short list and the more info we have early. The better we can narrow down Poe for a well thought out lynch at the end of the dp. I think as soon as moozer posts. We evaluate and force a full claim from that short list. 

Does this make sense or am I phrasing it properly ?
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If any of them are scum at all, that is
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@Mikal
Doing that late late in the dp advantages mafia and we also have less time to evaluate if we want to go through with the lynch
Fair I guess, but I just don't want to force a claim when Moozer has only posted twice. What if they make a dozen really towny posts and then we wasted getting a claim? They already said they are probably confirmable, which is as much information as I think we can safely reveal at the moment.

I'd lean toward getting a claim at the 48 hour mark. Gives us some time to reflect on it, but we shouldn't be jumping the gun before then.
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The last 4 posts from Mharm are why I cannot read him. It gives some insight to his thought process but I feel that it’s kind of all over the place. And he will post a read then back off it after re reading. It’s like the more he reads over the game, his reads continue to change after reading the same thing he read before. He did this as town last game and have no idea if he does it as scum. It’s very hard to nail him down to consistent thoughts. 
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yeah I’ll just leave my vote on Moozer and see what happens. I can observe and read from whatever happens no matter what I do.

Btw I’m all over the place cause I’m still trying to piece it all together 

Bye for now
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@Savant
I agree with this, it’s why I said I want to see him post first. My point is the non committal nature of not wanting a claim reads town but I’ve also played enough to see the end point of this. We are at the last few hours from the day phase ending and we have to pick a lynch. 

We get them to l-1 and they say. Don’t I’m a cop, a doc, tracker blah blah and they have a role and character that makes sense. That or we decide to lynch austin when if we pressured someone else, it may have gave us better options. 

Now we have limited time to evaluate if it’s a fake claim, if we want to go through with it , and we are going into the night phase (so if it is the truth) mafia now know the role either way. Where as if we do it earlier, there is more time to analyze and Poe from that claim. 
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To clarify I still think earth is the best choice to pressure. It took pressure to get any type of read of from him and he actively was around and posting fluff before that. Town or scum, he will be hard to figure out late game 

That behavior is scum sided though 

If he’s town, he plays in a way that is anti town most of the time. I think that’s why pie was trying to force reads from him because it’s extremely difficult to do anything based on how he posts 

If he’s scum and we don’t address it, he just coasts 


So he’s exhibited anti town behavior and locking him into a claim only benefits us. If he’s town, since we can’t gauge behavior based on his okay style. We may be able to verify night actions which will confirm him or if he’s scum, he’s more likely to slip. 
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@Mikal
If Mikal will get off my ass and stop tunneling me, I am Survivor. I am the Soldier. Survivor is a show with 48 seasons all about surviving physical and mental challenges to the end. If I am the last surviving town member, town wins automatically. 
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@Earth
I’m not tunneling. You were the best target by POE. Let me sit on that and re read when I get home later.  That is one good ass scum claim but Luna has used this before. 

Could be town. Justification makes sense 
Could be the fake claim 
Also could be someone who has played mafia a lot made it. 

Obscure enough to not risk a cc. 


Going to read your posts again in a bit and figure out if I buy this. 
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@Earth
Survivor started in 2000. Earlier, you said your show started after 2000.
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Yeah, that was the big reason why I debated just outting my character. I felt like if I said "2000", it would have been as good as a hard claim.

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And what do you mean Survivor is obscure? It has like 48 seasons.
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@Earth
Posting from work 

He’s talking about the role
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@Savant
Your point is pedantic and irrelevant 
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@Earth
I debated just outting my character. I felt like if I said "2000", it would have been as good as a hard claim.
Why debate outing your character when you had already decided not to say your show started in 2000? Also, there were other ways of soft claiming that wouldn't involve giving false information about your role. You could have said the decade it started, for example.
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First impression is that it’s a wild thing to put in a game, unless scum team is informed of one existing
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@Mharman
Your point is pedantic and irrelevant
How is it irrelevant if Earth said something about his role that was false?
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@Mharman
I don't remember the name, but wasn't it in a recent game? 


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@Earth
And what do you mean Survivor is obscure? It has like 48 seasons.
Soldier is an obscure role, and claiming it completely defeats the role's utility.