On Mikal, I've seen the argument that he could be trying to draw attention to a variety of "easier" targets to lynch, which is something we've seen scum use as a tactic before. If he's doing that, then he's doing a pretty slap-dash job of it, which doesn't comport with the attention he's putting into his reads. I'd say it's more likely that, if he is scum, he's drawing attention a set of players in the hopes that he can keep drawing lynches to that pool and away from others. I can understand that take-away from his posts so far, I just can't say that's my read. If anything, he's a little too dedicated to a couple of specific lynches that aren't gaining traction. I don't fully agree with his takes, but from someone who just hasn't been in this community for a while, I understand them and they read as townie to me.
As for Banana, I think she mostly has some good reads this game, but... yeah, there are some surprising gaps and misreads. Maybe that's just a matter of the DP being so long and her having so much to synthesize, maybe it's the fact that I'm one of her scumreads and I just don't understand her reasoning against me. [...] It doesn't really help that a number of Banana's lower reads don't feel fleshed out. The read on Austin doesn't mention his character and role claim, the read on WyIted seems vague and doesn't really engage with anything other than his speculation, and the read on Moozer she admits is based entirely on his being defensive of her rather than any specific behavior on his part.
Also, Casey, since you're around, is there anything you think I should prioritize looking into? I'm at school rn, don't have a ton of time but I am trying to catch up as best as I can.
Good question. Do you think #534 by Moozer is actually a scumslip like Pie suggested? At first I wasn't really sure, but then he made that post where he said, "Besides, I was part of the four, so I wouldn't call myself a mislynch." Which is just a weird statement? I don't know what he meant by that.I can see it being nothing, but I'm also having a hard time finding a reason to townread him. What do you think?
Whiteflame's read on banana is pretty good and maybe sheepable, I had the exact same worry about banana not mentioning my role claim; don't want to jump to conclusions yet, but I remember her being a player who cares more about mechanics.
I get what you're saying here, 100%, and I don't think this is an unreasonable take. That being said, I'm not as convinced by this line of reasoning for the same reason I brought up earlier: Banana often uses this sort of logic as town. In The Russian Mafia in particular, her defense of That2 had pretty much nothing to do with That2's own behavior and everything to do with everyone else's behavior around her wagon. Even as the mod watching that game, I thought this was really bad logic, but it was sincere.I dunno, I just kind of feel like if Banana was scum, it would be a bit more obvious? In the one game she played before where she was scum, it became evident to me pretty soon after she received even a small amount of pressure. But maybe she's improved quickly. I can believe that and am not totally discounting that possibility. I just don't think it's the most likely.
There's a player here whose play I've been a little bit disappointed in. I wonder if everyone knows who I'm talking about.
Moozer defends a scum slip with another scum slip...I mean irony aside, I'm not sure how AI this actually is. Pie reads a lot into wording like this and is usually wrong (though I think it's towny for Pie to be paying this much attention.)
Okay I may regret this but I feel like it’s important. I’m a classic show.If that also helps while I’m curious about his claim. Add that to his behavior it may help you see why I’m “tunneling”
It’s a Freudian slip. Moozer shouldn’t know that everyone else is a mislynch but he should know that he is a mislynch
Also just realized I forgot to claim my character (I was in a rush sorry), my character is Family Feud, because it's a gameshow that consists of two families directly competing against each other.Seems like a pretty bad justification because there are lots of 1v1 gameshows, but that's just what Luna gave me so eh.
I don’t hate an earth lynch if there’s no better target but I gotta think the incentives for claiming something like that as scum are low…. The real question I’m grappling with is if Linatic would ever put that in a setup
I need to go study, I'll be back in like 45 minutes. If anyone is around, please give a direction for me to explore, it can be a player, a particular section of the game, a specific interaction, etc, but I really need something to bite on to.
I just had an epiphany as I was typing that. What if earth is town and scum are not pushing or jumping on the lynch because he is an easy Mislynch?
Both Mharman and WyIted could fit that bill. I'm used to seeing the former really break things down and find small tells that indicate plausible scum. He also tends to be more interactive in the way he plays when he gets going, and I've mostly seen him on the sidelines here.
Okay, so Austin is probably town. Gladiator is rarely a scum role, though I did put a scum Gladiator in my last 3v8 game. But I also added in the "Super Governor" that was specifically meant to help balance against it. (I was wondering if the town would realize that Bullish's role suggested that he and Cerulean were not on the same team, but that never happened.) I will say that if anyone else would make a Gladiator mafia, it would probably be Lunatic. But for now, Austin feels town behaviorally. Strong gut read.
Okay boys and girls. We need to start focusing in on a target. 10 am tomorrow the day phase ends. That’s going to be right as I’m waking up and I don’t want to rush during work trying to solve the game. We need this locked in before midnight so we can sleep and not be rushing to solve shit tomorrow morning.I am going to think some during work and I’m still contemplating the idea earth is being left alive intentionally. We need to build a Poe.
