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He said very blatantly that he had a "plan" to screw over scum if he got nked and then he had an investigative role. Figured the bluff was more likely than having a convenient role for that situation. Even now, I'm not sure Mikal wouldn't do that as town.
This was DP2. But the Beloved Princess claim is inherently sus. Mharman also picked up on the scumslip in DP3, but you just ignored it
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I've also had a role where the character is only connected to one part of it. Like I was a miller soldier, and I was a "pawn" since they advance at the end of the game, but that has nothing to do with being a miller.
Sure, but look at the flipped roles and characters. They all mechanically fit 
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Mharman also picked up on the scumslip in DP3, but you just ignored it
I wasn't convinced it was a scum slip. Luna giving the full role name to the rolecop was more believable to me than a town grandpa. But we should have PoEd it down with Mharman's role.
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I was more confident on Mharman being scum.
Why lol. I literally had Banana #2 after Earth. You at the very least should not have believed Banana after the Post 2000 claim. There was no one else left that was famous besides Howie Mandel lmao
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I wasn't convinced it was a scum slip. Luna giving the full role name to the rolecop was more believable to me than a town grandpa. But we should have PoEd it down with Mharman's role.
Bruh Mikal literally contradicted what the mod said, cause he made up what he did in the night
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but look at the flipped roles and characters. They all mechanically fit
Sure, but the question is what the threshold is for "mechanically fitting." Probably should have looked though more Luna games to figure that out, but I got distracted looking too much at behavior.
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Bruh Mikal literally contradicted what the mod said
Wait when did this happen?
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Why lol
Behavior + gramps
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Sure, but the question is what the threshold is for "mechanically fitting." Probably should have looked though more Luna games to figure that out, but I got distracted looking too much at behavior.
I think there were a lot of issues with town’s play. I’m most disappointed in Austin though. He should’ve seen through it, but I presume he was busy elsewhere 
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Villainous Villains. Pie told you DP2 that he was a town gramps in that game. That was a Lunatic game.
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Villainous Villains. Pie said he was a town gramps. That was a Lunatic game.
I know that point got brought up at one point, but then it made me more inclined to think Luna's roles could kind of be anything and so why should I be harsh on anyone for their claim?
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I’m most disappointed in Austin though. He should’ve seen through it, but I presume he was busy elsewhere
I mean I don't blame him too much for not picking up on that one thing. Issue is that the strategy that works in one game screws us over in another.
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Wait when did this happen?
DP3. Let me find it.


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Wait did Mharman call that out?
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Behavior + gramps
He literally diverted the lynch off of WF and onto Wylted DP1. That’s townie as fuck. And if you think, oh it was a bus imo, then you definitely should’ve considered the bus between Mikal and Banana
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Either I missed it and blundered or Mharman forgot and blundered. But either way I should have been looking back.
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diverted the lynch off of WF and onto Wylted DP1.
He said something, I said something, then Mikal did, then the train started. In hindsight everyone tried to take credit for that, and I think I already had this argument.
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I get it man, reasonable mistake.

But I had the function of an alert townie with a different name. Some of the older mods do that because different communities have different names for different roles. Iirc the first mafia players on the old DDC were from mafiascum, so I think the origins from MS, to the uniqueness of DDO, to the modern influence MU is having on DART has changed the terminology in some cases over time.

That’s not as bad as claiming an extra function to a role that didn’t have a justification, that also clashes with other claims (rolecop) and goes against the incentives of observed behavior.
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Wait did Mharman call that out?
Yes, he literally did. Here

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Devil is in the details.

@Luna

This is why you need someone who is detailed. Small things matter.
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Yes, he literally did. Here
Guess I should have read the whole thing, but I kind of got lazy at that point, skimmed the first few points, and thought it was mostly fluff. And I'd mostly decided to scum read Mharman by that point anyway. In hindsight that one point was the smoking gun.
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Guess I should have read the whole thing, but I kind of got lazy at that point, skimmed the first few points, and thought it was mostly fluff. And I'd mostly decided to scum read Mharman by that point anyway. In hindsight that one point was the smoking gun.
Literally me and WF were going crazy about how no one saw that besides Mharman, and no one did anything. Literally crying
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Anyways. Moral of the story is 100% confirmed is better than 99% confirmed. Always ask for justification. And finally, watch for the bus especially at MYLO/LYLO
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Literally me and WF were going crazy about how no one saw that besides Mharman, and no one did anything. Literally crying
Ok well it was buried in a list of like 13 points. If Mharman had hammered on that point I probably would have agreed with it. I mean, not that I blame him because he was the only one to notice it anyway.
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I worded that specific question in that specific way to throw Lunatic off too, before I posted that read on Mikal. He refused to give a clear answer when I got more specific.
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Ok well it was buried in a list of like 13 points. If Mharman had hammered on that point I probably would have agreed with it. I mean, not that I blame him because he was the only one to notice it anyway.
Literally Mikal would’ve been a dead man if I was alive. There was a reason why I said his role was necessary to get an accurate picture
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I got distracted before I could really hammer any of the points hard… but I did ping everyone to read the case in its entirety. I bolded stuff to draw attention to it as well.
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I worded that specific question in that specific way to throw Lunatic off too, before I posted that read on Mikal. He refused to give a clear answer when I got more specific.
I know. Don’t know why though. Cause it’s a question based on flipped roles.
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I got distracted before I could really hammer any of the points hard… but I did ping everyone to read the case in its entirety. I bolded stuff to draw attention to it as well
Yeah I really should have read the whole thing.