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@ADreamOfLiberty
Now, I like you as the new owner more than these other guys who want to be. So my vote goes to you.
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It can't be me because I can't accept ownership anonymously, and somebody already offered to buy it which leads me to believe that the real owner (Michael I guess) wants something more than a wink and a nudge.
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It can't be me because I can't accept ownership anonymously
I guess thats issue. But you can make new site if you have code?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Checkmate.
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@AdaptableRatman
Remybrown is regularly, Wylted too.

Shila was a blatant case.
RemyBrown and Wylted make controversial posts. What of it?

Shila didn't talk about raping, killing, pushing strollers into traffic, stomping on babies, and other really delightful things. This is an improvement on FishChaser. Anyone is an improvement on FishChaser. 

I don't think these dramatic episodes, resembling a soap opera, are what teachers, students, and decent types would want to see. There is also Sir.Lancelot who talked down to a longstanding member. Terrible.
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Even experienced coders like myself could make a syntax error. And then the whole site's functionality crashes.
rofl, "experienced coder" who doesn't know how to use a testbed.


ADreamOfLiberty is NOT the person for the job
Ah, there is that paranoia again.


We The Community, have already spoken out and decided against it. 
Delusions of grandeur, round 2.

You and rat are not "the community". The "community" voted to change the rules a long time ago and you don't give a shit.

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@ADreamOfLiberty
Game Over.
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Shila didn't talk about raping, killing, pushing strollers into traffic, stomping on babies, and other really delightful things.
She said similar but aimed specifically at Jews and the Holocaust.
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@yachilviveyachali
I didn't want this to be very dramatic, to be fair. Drama has a way of finding me.
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I thought he moved to Finland or Norway. I wonder if he got deported back to Russia. 
He would not have been deported. I was born in southern Russia. No one has deported me yet, although I hold two passports. 
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[Sungod / Korea] But you can make new site if you have code?
No I can't do that either.

In fact the only thing I ever offered was code and advise about code. I can't rent cloud space, host a server, register a domain, own intellectual property, or sign and contract with any service provider.

I mean I can do all those things, but not as ADOL. Maybe someday people from here will end up on a debate site I designed, but you'll never know it was me running it.


[A rat man] Checkmate.
Hey, I'm the one who gets to keep his money instead of spending it running a niche insane asylum whose primary activity is mafia and not debate.

Looks like I win again.
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She said similar but aimed specifically at Jews and the Holocaust.
I noticed. 

I believe we should be able to talk about the Holocaust. Her comments were neither stupid nor uneducated. She isn't Dan Bilzerian.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
No I can't do that either
Well, then there are other sites, after this one degrades with censorship.
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I believe we should be able to talk about the Holocaust. Her comments were neither stupid nor uneducated. She isn't Dan Bilzerian.
If you repeat her comments and agree with them, there will be consequences that start with posting privileges removed for some time, I presume. We are not discussing what she posted anymore ty.
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@AdaptableRatman
The Lord is with me. I am his servant. He shall bring all to their knees. We shall be saved. Have faith.
Humility is a virtue in Catholicism.
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So are righteous anger (component of virtue) and zeal.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Adaptable is incorporating my suggestion about wiping the site clean and starting over from a blank slate, and being stricter with the new policies.
You do not have many users. How is becoming stricter going to help your site be active?
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Because right now ~5/6 visitors look at this, see the censored FC or Best Korea stuff you cannot even see anymore a lot of as immediately, go 'no thanks' and quit.
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@yachilviveyachali
You do not have many users. How is becoming stricter going to help your site be active?
Banning users increases number of users, obviously now.
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Best Korea stuff
Well, I doubt they see that. Most dont check forum. Besides, Best Korea account was banned. This is a different account.

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I am running a free advertising  for this site on YouTube and Tik Tok too. My channel gets 20000 views per week now. So yeah, I actually bring new users, but not many actually like site where people hate each other this much.
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I will try to fix that. Give it time.
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If you repeat her comments and agree with them, there will be consequences that start with posting privileges removed for some time, I presume.
The rules give no authority to Rat to suspend anything for repeating the words of other posters or agreeing with them.
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@yachilviveyachali
You do not have many users. How is becoming stricter going to help your site be active?
You are thinking my version is curbing the population to an already dying website.
My logic is full algorithm reset, with more global access to a broader demographic.
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Agreeing with Holocaust apologetics is bannable. At minimum warnable. Let us steer clear of that topic.
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Agreeing with Holocaust apologetics is bannable.
Cite it.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I am telling you. It is the way now. Shila's ban is proof.
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My logic is full algorithm reset, with more global access to a broader demographic.
Neither this site nor its predecessor had a broad demographic. You have a community, this community. It is sensible to not stifle it.

Big dreams lead to big disappointments.
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Agreeing with Holocaust apologetics is bannable. At minimum warnable. Let us steer clear of that topic.
Would you ban Darryl Cooper if he were using this site?
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What in the rules gave you the authority to ban Shila?

You can find the rules here:


Here is the policy for those who don't want to open an Evernote link 

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If that looks familiar, it should. You voted for it:

So did David:

Let's look at what you said.

I’ll vote yay.

I think it’s worth overhauling moderation policy in some ways and I’ve seen a lot of progress and community interaction with these potential changes. As for whether this gives moderation more power or access, honestly, I don’t see how that’s the case. Mod discretion has always been integral to the existing policy, and if the goal here is to restrict how we can act in meaningful ways, then changes can be made if they get enough support. This is a good start that can yield other changes.

Where are the changes that let you do this, or is community support a inconvenience?


To be clear, I never thought the owner was bound to follow a MEEP. I think it's a great idea, but it wasn't a chartered privileged as far as I can tell.


HOWEVER

To pretend for years that there was some kind of system of democratic system for changing the rules, to participate in that very process, to never expressly renege, and yet to still ignore the 'laws' of that 'government' and do whatever the hell you want anyway is just disgusting.

That makes you liars, and for no benefit that I can see at all. Just lying out of weakness and avoiding the issue in the hopes it goes away.