Does someone know the term for Fascism that is anti Nazi and Catholic?

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I think what my political outlook is, is a type of Italian Fascism but definitely different to Mussolini's. I am trying to find if there is a term to use to differentiate my outlook from abusively racist ones such as Mussolinis and definitely than Hitler's.

My focuses are on environment, religion, community and family. Fascism but definitely different to Mussolini's. I am trying to find if there is a term to use to differentiate my outlook from abusively racist ones such a Mussolini's and definitely than Hitler's.

My focuses are on environment, religion, community and family. Security is often central to Fascism. To me it is a medium need as I think sometimes it is okay to give up and bend if a superior force is fully invading and allies will barely help.

However, I am against racism and want justice focused on reform/rehab more then on retribution.

What is this type of Fascism classified as?
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I was genuinely curious about this so I asked chatGPT. It ended up using the word “communitarianism” a lot, which isn’t an already defined ideology but I think it fits pretty well.

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Yes but that is a value.

The term is collectivism. The term Communitarianism sounds Communist. It also doesn't imply Authoritarianism. I am becoming Authoritarian.

Anyway we shall see. I use feudalism to sort of define it for now. I don't want full feudalism, that is a corrupt rigged system where smart peasants and harder working peasants alike can not meritocractically do more for the commumity than just farm etc.
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Isnt that just neo nazis?

There are neo nazis that think mixed race people are an abomination and would exterminate them or throw them to the sea to drown which is basically extermination. These people are not my allies.
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Fascism is as fascism does.

And by modern definition, suitably endorses the intolerance of either individuals or collectives towards a chosen opponent.

Though was originally symbolic of magisterial power.

Such is how we develop language by corruption, and ideas by imagination.


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Intolerance of race or religion?
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Intolerance of race or religion?

I would suggest that the word has become suitably developed and will therefore incorporate both.


Signing off.

Have a good day.
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How can we maintain the 1 true faith if we allow false faiths to spread like a poison?

I am so confused at this. Maybe that is hate speech idk.

If we allow children to be brainwashed into the false religion(s) and get inflitrated mentally to ger warped values they can end up bad. I would know as I was not raised into any strong religious values and endes up poisoned by nihilism and hedonism despite a smart brain.
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The fact that we are not consciously pre-programmed and consequently, consciously conditioned.

Is another indication of the absence of an omniscient creator.


Rather, we are the product of a Universal evolutionary process, wherein intellect inevitably develops without assistance.

I would refer to this as the GOD principle.

MANGOD too, is an inevitable development of a developing Universal intellect.


The individual thinking unit is affected by outside influences which to a large extent, define how it will behave.

Which isn't to suggest that the developed unit is not be subject to it's own governance.
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I do think Spains falangism is whst you may think I support. That focused too hard on hierarchy and bullying. It didnt focus on actually conserving all that much.
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But we are somewhat pre-programmed.

A pig is programmed different to a human.

Or do you mean only deterministic theism makes sense to you?
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I want to report this forum topic for promoting fascism here. This is so very offensive. I cannot even begin to say how much it offended me.
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How can we maintain the 1 true faith if we allow false faiths to spread like a poison?
He is literally arguing to take away religious freedom. So take away his religious freedom then.

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Also, make me a moderator so I can enforce the true religion of Meowbahh here.
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They tried so, violently, in the reformation and in some ways sycceeded. Stalin ruined catholicism in Russia.

We shall revive!
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We shall revive!
You shall be defeated by the Great Meow. No matter how many times you stand up, you will always fail anyway. Meowbahh is the best of destroyers.

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There is no God but God Meowbahh, and Lucy is his/her prophet.
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Everyone who suffers or enjoys, does so by the will of Meowbahh, the Great Ballah!
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Also, make me a moderator so I can enforce the true religion of Meowbahh here.
Meow has declared the religion to be Meowism, not simply their name, so automatic 6 month ban for sacrilege/catgenderriledge.
/joke
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It will be as Meow of Vallah wills it.
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In terms of base function, a pig is pre-programmed very similarly.

Though what it can achieve is obviously different.


And in terms of making sense, theism only  makes sense as an inevitable outcome of an evolving intellect.

Whereas creation and existence, as in something from nothing, makes no sense at all.

Though creation and existence by it's very nature, is deterministic...Which makes sense.


Which isn't to say that an Interventionist Super-Intelligence isn't a reasonable hypothesis, and therefore does not make sense.


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Christain democracy?