Why are more liberals joining The Right?

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It was well stated.
MAGA wouldn't exist if not for the dumb and evil on the left. There was a time when the Democrat party in 1990 looked almost exactly like MAGA today.

Trump may not be the Bill Clinton we wanted, but he is the one Americans need.
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A rat from a sinking ship is still a rat. "Moving to the right" is even performed just moving to another state, making the blue/red argument as silly as an argument gets. That's wat so annoying about woke. When really awake, all that is done is more somnambulism. "woke" is dead. Always was.
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Why do you love Slovenian sex workers?
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Why is hate in your heart?
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A rat from a sinking ship is still a rat.
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Why do you love Slovenian sex workers?
You may as well call every wife a “sex worker.”

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Well stated.
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Sex worker.

Sex takes effort for sure.

Though I'm not certain of the ratio of male to female input of energy.

Depends upon enthusiasm and methodology I suppose.

But one might suggest that your average missionary style quicky, probably requires a much greater level of male input.
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Of course the male puts in more effort, unless the female is riding him.
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The Biden administration did not weaponize the justice system. The Trump administration did.
This is where I have to stop you. Trump was the one prosecuted something unheard of for future presidents
Trump was prosecuted for committing obvious and serious crimes. Why is that concept so difficult for you? 

When you see a black man getting arrested, does that qualify to you as evidence to you if racism?
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you already agreed most of America is smarter than you for never wasting a minute thinking about Trump during an average day.
Show me where I agreed to this. I'll wait.

Saying “the entire nation is dumber" because of one guy is pure emotional hyperbolic overreach, and ironically, it proves to everyone a lack of critical thinking [...]Trust me bro, there are plenty of people smarter than you and they got even smarter after Trump got elected.
I'm not assessing "the entire nation" as a statement of every individual American genius. It's a broad overview that focuses on our national dialog, that should have been obvious because it's common sense.

Before Trump we were debating what the top marginal tax rate should be or how far the government should go to ensure its citizens have healthcare. Now we're debating what tariff is or whether we should be listening to experts. That's what devolution into stupidity looks like.
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Trump was prosecuted for committing obvious and serious crimes. Why is that concept so difficult for you? 
Like an accounting error made by his attorney? Did you ever see the legal loop holes they had to jump through to define that as illegal?

Or because somebody thinks he inflated the value of Mar-A-Largo and believes it's only worth 500k in real life or something?

Not only are these not real crimes but we don't even go after presidents when they do commit real crimes like when Bill Clinton raped multiple women. There's no mug shot of Bill Clinton.  You know damn well he wouldn't be prosecuted if he never ran for president and you know he wouldn't be prosecuted if he ran as a Democrat. Your a liar if you are claiming he would. 



When you see a black man getting arrested, does that qualify to you as evidence to you if racism?
Let's say we basically have a policy where we are not arresting black men and then one black men becomes very unpopular with the liberal elite and he randomly gets arrested for some stupid shit than it would look to me like it's evidence of somebody being a fascist looking to shut down dissent like Hitler did. 

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Do you not see what is happening in Romania with a politician who won but was populist so was banned from the election? Do you not see what's happening in Germany where they are looking to ban a party for being too popular but also populist? Or in the Philippines where they looked to arrest a former president something also unheard of there who happened to be very popular and conservative?

If you are honestly too stupid or evil to address this pattern on the left than you need to take nootropics.

I don't care whether you agree with what happened or disagree with it, to not recognize this pattern and address it when pointed out is low IQ.

Let me see if I was a leftist and I have a high IQ how would I address this?

I would say, that the populist right is a threat to the current world order which has served us well so yes these prosecutions are politically motivated and yes they wouldn't happen to a more elitest candidate like a Bush or an Obama but that's because those people aren't rot that could easily destroy a pretty good system. 

Hell if I was a more elitest liberal my argument might look like the following

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These types such as Trump represent a revolutionary force despite controlling the government at the moment. If you are going to challenge the system than don't be surprised when it finds ways to defend itself. It's just the white blood cells testing if you really want change and if there is enough popular support behind it

The fact you really can't see patterns or you think of everything within a pattern as a single event and just assume what the news tells you isn't a sign of a high IQ and you really shouldn't be doing your own thinking here. If you are going to vote Democrat and harm society fine, but you shouldn't be discussing politics ever, with anyone because you don't have the mental bandwidth to really understand anything related to it as evidenced that I barely tried and already came up with better challenges to my position than you could have. You wouldn't survive the arena bro. 
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Just straight up: if you rely on experts to form logical thoughts, then your mind is on the level of a child's. Indoctrination by experts is a test against IQ, not for it.

To people who lack basic IQ skills to parse raw data, everyone must seem like an expert.
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if you rely on experts to form logical thoughts
Experts dont exist. But stupid people believe they do exist. Stupid people need someone else to tell them what to think. It is because they are stupid people.
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Just straight up: if you rely on experts to form logical thoughts, then your mind is on the level of a child's. Indoctrination by experts is a test against IQ, not for it.
One of the hallmarks of high IQ is an attraction to novel ideals. If you are consuming the same information as plebs you will stay on their level permanently 
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@WyIted
Trump was prosecuted for committing obvious and serious crimes. Why is that concept so difficult for you? 
Like an accounting error made by his attorney? Did you ever see the legal loop holes they had to jump through to define that as illegal?
I am well aware of the case, it was not an accounting error. The whole point of the trial is to prove that Trump was in fact guilty of the crime alleged, and they did.

The thread is here. Feel free to chime in if you actually care about something beyond surface level talking points.

It starts there with post 245 when Thett chimed in, IMHO he was the best challenger I dealt with in that thread.

But all that aside, let's not forget what we're actually talking about. I would be perfectly fine reviving that thread because people like you are just plain wrong there and I'll prove that ten times over. But the claim here is that the Biden administration weaponized the justice department. This is not the Biden DOJ, this is a state prosector prosecuting a state crime, which is totally irrelevant to that.

Or because somebody thinks he inflated the value of Mar-A-Largo and believes it's only worth 500k in real life or something?
He did, that's a fact. Investors are given a certain amount of leeway on determinations of value, this went way beyond that. Taking a 5 mile drive and calling it ten is understandable. Calling it a 75 mile drive, when you drive for a living, is just lying.

And again btw... State charges filled by state officials. Still nothing to do with the DOJ.

Not only are these not real crimes but we don't even go after presidents when they do commit real crimes like when Bill Clinton raped multiple women. There's no mug shot of Bill Clinton.
Trump has 26 accusers. Still no mug shot for that either.

You know damn well he wouldn't be prosecuted if he never ran for president
Well first of all, the one crime he was convicted for was about influencing his own election, the rest of his criminal charges are all directly related to his actions as president. So saying he would have never gotten convicted had he not run is tautology, aka meaningless.

But with regards to the rest, yeah you're probably right. As I have pointed out to you before and gotten nothing but crickets back, some people do commit crimes and get away with it. But when you run for president, people pay attention to what you've done with your life. Kind of hard for a prosector to look the other way when your crimes are detailed on the front page of the NY Times.

That's common sense, no conspiracy theory needed.

When you see a black man getting arrested, does that qualify to you as evidence to you if racism?
Let's say we basically have a policy where we are not arresting black men and then one black men becomes very unpopular with the liberal elite and he randomly gets arrested for...
First off all, you ignored the question. Is a black man getting arrested evidence of racism? Yes or No?

Second, there is no policy that says we're not arresting black men (president's). There is apprehension about it because that's basic human nature, but that doesn't mean we let them do whatever they want.

Third, it wasn't random. Like I said before, the best criminal charge you can argue against is the one where his attorney did three years in jail for a crime he committed "in coordination with and at the direction of" Donald Trump. You cannot seriously tell me you think it's ok for someone to go to jail for committing a crime but not the guy who told him to do it and worked with him to carry it out, all because that guy is a former president.

Do you not see what is happening in Romania
Not really. I don't pay that close attention to international affairs, I've learned that with people like you it's rarely if ever what you say it is, and most importantly whatever left wing politicians in other countries are doing has no relevance to the fact that Trump is weaponizing the DOJ while Joe Biden did not.
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Experts dont exist.
Curious, what do you do for a living?
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Experts dont exist.
Curious, what do you do for a living?
I pray to God, obviously.
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👽💀👽💀It's only meaningless and obfuscated for a Democrat that listens to experts on what to do with their lives.👽💀👽💀

Perhaps the Aliens will be their new experts?
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C'mon man! You don't think LucyStarfire is an alien?
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You don't think LucyStarfire is an alien?
I am not some alien. God chose me because God loves me and doesnt love you.
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Some people have hate in their hearts.
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Some people have hate in their hearts.
I hate everyone except God.