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1st place: Town (Pie, Savant, Mharman, Banana, Casey, WyIted, Earth)
2nd place: Mafia (Lunatic, Mikal)


Night Actions (NP1):

Pie gave Earth Justice
Earth Justiced Mharman and Casey (silenced by Freezer)
Casey used Pathologist on Pie
WyIted Avoided Earth
Lunatic Froze Earth
Mikal NK'd Casey

Night Actions (NP2):

Pie gave Mharman Tracker
Lunatic Silenced Pie
Lunatic NK'd Earth
Mharman Tracked Pie


Easy MVP was Mharman. Baiting out the fake from Luna and Mikal was particularly inspired. Mikal did have it called in the scum chat, but ended up being convinced to go with Luna instead of bussing him. 


As for looking back on the game, I'll start by just owning up to it, I did make some errors this game.

I'll start with the basic transcription error. I copy-pasted the Silencer from mafiauniverse and that included the "no vote" aspect. I was tempted to roll with it, but it would end the game one DP early, which would have made the game absurdly scum-sided, so I swapped it for "one vote." Sorry for the error, not sorry for the change.

I also made a couple of calls during the game that are bound to be controversial, so I'll discuss the "why" and my feelings on it in retrospect.

I prioritized Pie's Inventor role so that it couldn't be directly prevented. This was an attempt to balance a game where I only had one town player with any strong investigative role (I'd consider the Pathologist role pretty weak). That, coupled with the fact that Pie could have given any of his roles to a scum player and that they could themselves be roleblocked or killed made me think I needed to give this role some leg up. That might have been too much, and I think in retrospect it would have been better to just change up the Pathologist role to make it stronger and make Pie an investigative JOAT (as Mharman suggested). This was me trying something that was always going to be difficult if not impossible to balance.

As for the second issue, I decided ahead of the game that a roleblocked role was just not going to be used up, and I do think that was a mistake as applied to the roles granted by Pie's Inventor in particular. At minimum, I should've been looser on how that perspective applied in this game, and I think the Freezer should have resulted in Earth having used up the Justice role. It just made Pie's role more powerful than it should have been by NP2. Apart from that, it probably would've been best to leave Pie's Inventions at 2. I think altogether, these decisions did make the game town-sided, so my balance was off.


Anyway, I'll leave the self-flagellation there and focus on the game. I was surprised people were so ready and willing to lynch Savant that early, particularly with a claimed Doctor on the table. I get that scum could ask about two roles and could have designed this claim knowing there was a Doctor in the game, but it seemed particularly risky, especially coming from Mharman who stood to lose his role.

As for WyIted in the second DP... yeah, it was a bit painful to read his paraphrasing of my PMs. I probably would have townread his being so flabbergasted with so much of the terminology, but I get why he was being scumread, even if the "scumslips" were reaching.

I think town also gave both Luna and Mikal way too much leeway in those first two DPs. I get that Mikal was absent for a lot of that first DP, but he barely posted in the second and Luna didn't have to do too much to keep attention off of him.

Luna and Mikal definitely had some opportunities to win out in the end, but their concern over the Justice role ended up winning out over some more promising strategies. That's partially on me for reasons I've already described, though I think the risk of the Justice was pretty low given what they had on hand with an Ascetizer and the Even Night Godfather. They pushed a little too hard for the DP3 win, but especially on those last two nights, they were putting in solid effort to design fake claims and run through a lot of potential night actions. Props to them for putting it all on the line.
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Disagree. You were driving town off a cliff lol. No reason to type when everyone had me in a town pile after Luna said he could confirm me. We thought the game ended dayphase 3. 
Town was running under the assumption the game would at least go to DP3 lol, so kinda irrelevant. As for driving town off a cliff. Savant’s claim could be a fake claim + if he was town, we locked Mharman. It was a win win. For Wylted, well. He was just scummy by every metric. Character, role, and behavior. But it also helped POE. And after DP2, Luna was 100% scum in every scenario to me, so the POE was successful.

We would have played that different but went in thinking it was free and kinda locked into stuff by then. 

Ya if that was a thing, it’s bastard 

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What was theme split?
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And what did scum guess for characters and roles?
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What was theme split?
Obligate anaerobes (can only survive and thrive without oxygen) vs. anything else (aerobes/facultative anaerobes). Stuck with something in the description near the top of each Wikipedia page, actually pretty close to the Gram stain result.

And what did scum guess for characters and roles?
Characters: Staphylococcus and Micrococcus
Roles: Vanilla and Watcher
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Obligate anaerobes (can only survive and thrive without oxygen) vs. anything else (aerobes/facultative anaerobes). Stuck with something in the description near the top of each Wikipedia page, actually pretty close to the Gram stain result.
Ya definitely a tough one lol for someone with only 9th grade biology experience lol
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I am so confused what I just witnessed.

Most absurd comeback from most dogsh$$ townplay I ever witnessed.

Genuinely this sort of comeback is insane to me. I have no idea what I witnessed. I would have never ever joined either bandwagon either dp1 or dp2 in banana's shoes.
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Ya definitely a tough one lol for someone with only 9th grade biology experience lol
True. Probably could have kept it less technical, but this was about as minimal as I could get in that department and not just be blatantly obvious.

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Obligate anaerobes (can only survive and thrive without oxygen) vs. anything else (aerobes/facultative anaerobes). Stuck with something in the description near the top of each Wikipedia page, actually pretty close to the Gram stain result.
Yeah, I wouldn't have gotten that, lol
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Yeah, I wouldn't have gotten that, lol
Fair, scum didn't get it.

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Genuinely this sort of comeback is insane to me. I have no idea what I witnessed. I would have never ever joined either bandwagon either dp1 or dp2 in banana's shoes.
No one cares 
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Thanks.

I don't care about you caring either. 🤷‍♂️
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I mean my point is I didn’t have to post. When Luna confirmed me as town even as scum I could have scooted by. No one was pressuring me and all the mislynches were handling themselves. Me posting did nothing but detract from letting town go off the rails. Was intentionally just being active in the mafia pm and gambling no one would pressure me enough for it matter. 

For what it matters it worked. As we thought the game was over and had to adjust on the fly. Feel like the only two mistakes 

Would have been a different sequence np2 but gambling with the justice was still risky. So don’t regret it 

That and I should have tried to sell Luna harder on bussing him because I could have stuck around till endgame and made Mharm have a harder choice 
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Fair enough 
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I do feel Lunas pain though. He prob spent like 10 hours doing fake claims and adjusting on the fly was pretty brutal even though I agree as initially designed, it was op. Just drastically altered how we approached things 
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We actually locked in on silence pie and kill Mharm and leave earth alive 


That strategy would have prob won the game but the possibility of him targeting Luna with a justice was there so it was some tough calls. Adjusted it last min 
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@Mikal
You silence Mharm always. Always. That way he has same vote-lead power but 0 capacity to socially engineer you.
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Would not have made sense as we had to silence Pie with the claim and plan we had already built. Killing him would have worked as it would have left pie silenced but killing pie or letting him talk would have cced Luna 


I think the correct win con was to kill Mharm instead of earth and do the same plan. Then I would have sold Luna and banana were the scum team and kept pie alive cus justice would have confirmed us. 


But largely irrelevant. Justice was a loose cannon so taking it out was the call.  
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Either way gg all and good bait Mharm. 

Should have trusted my gut more. 
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@Mikal
You can hard bus Luna and play towards being genuine Town neighborizer.

You can even navigate around Pie by vsing Banana fully if you wanted. Pie definitely doubted Banana.

If you neither silence Mharm nor Kill him, you are letting a cleared doc run things as he pleases and confirm Pie potentially.
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Would have been a different sequence np2 but gambling with the justice was still risky. So don’t regret it 

That and I should have tried to sell Luna harder on bussing him because I could have stuck around till endgame and made Mharm have a harder choice
Yeah.

Mistake #3 pertains more to Lunatic. Should NOT have used your real characters for the fake claim. You can def get away with it at times, but here, I saw tetanus and botulism and almost immediately figured out they were the silencer and freezer.

Pie being silenced while Lunatic claiming what he did still would’ve been sus, but if it weren’t for the choice to use real characters, I still, despite everything, would have considered that Lunatic gave me the tracker while Pie visited me for another reason.

Dunno if it would’ve saved Lunatic in the end, but it would have helped him a lot

Anyway that should be it

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I need to get better at reading you
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btw giving the tracker to me was pretty ballsy. Kinda forced as well but I’m glad you spotted that play
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btw giving the tracker to me was pretty ballsy. Kinda forced as well but I’m glad you spotted that play
Yep I knew Luna was scum and he’d keep me alive
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You were the prime mislynch target, that was obvious. I’m impressed with the fact you decided to bet on them not killing me.

They should have, but town was on the back foot (at least from what we knew at the time), so yeah swinging for the fences was best. Earth couldn’t have used it, but there were other that could have, it’s just that you had to hard call that they were town

I was confirmed but there were high odds I would be the kill. So you had to choose between a guaranteed helpful result IF the target escaped death, or a 1/3 shot at a helpful result with a guarantee the target escaped death.

You made the right call.
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@Mharman
Why did you suspect the enabler claim rather than hard townread it?

I genuinely think Wylted was the only town player whose thought process made sense dp1 and he was... Funky.

I cannot understand it. 
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There was a theory that he had used two questions for enabler and doctor, to craft his fake claim and then buddy the doctor. I didn’t care for Savant’s behavior, so the idea kinda stuck with me.