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@ILikePie5
Even if you’re not scum this game, you’re going to be scum at some point and you’re going to get lynched
That logic applies to literally any player.
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@Mikal
My gut is really pulling me to wylted pieThe more I read back
Lol
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@Mikal
My gut is really pulling me to wylted pieThe more I read back
Lol
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@Savant
That logic applies to literally any player.
I know but the difference is they cooperate regardless of their affiliation and may get a pass for it. Play a themed game the way it’s supposed to be played
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@Savant
I see you not claiming before identical to gamethrowing.
I dont care if you selfvote.
I see it as equal GT, not worse, given the circumstances.
Can you please save us time and selfvote?
For the record, this is equal GT regardless of alignment. As in I see it as GT as scum to refuse to claim when at blatant threat of hammer.
That is my ethos. Now, there are crowds and situations where you are not told 100% you will be hammered if you do not claim. This was not that. So to me you already fully threw.
Please hammer self, to me it is no ig deal as youre already blacklisted.
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@ILikePie5
Play a themed game the way it’s supposed to be played
There's no "supposed to" as long as my strategy is within the rules.
No big*
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@Savant
It is not. Your strategy violates gamethrow rule.
As in I see it as GT as scum to refuse to claim when at blatant threat of hammer.
Except you could be bluffing, I never know until you hammer.
Please hammer self, to me it is no ig deal as youre already blacklisted.
I'm not going to punish the rest of the town for your decisions.
To be fair he’s not saying he won’t claim. He’s saying he’s not claiming dp1 as a policy reason.
I’d just convert my strategy and lie everytime and if town keeps throwing then it on them.
I want an answer from earth. The longer he doesn’t answer the more I’d think someone is willing to claim their shit early and he’s outright refusing to answer me in DMs or in here. That reads me as odd
violates gamethrow rule
There's no guarantee that claiming or not claiming helps the town. I can't trust what you say, since the entire game is built on people lying. Again, you haven't proven you have the votes to hammer me until it happens.
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@Savant
There's no "supposed to" as long as my strategy is within the rules.
There are implied rules within the game, and refusing to claim is a violation of them. It’s been that way since long before you and I started playing mafia
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@Mikal
Id blacklist that too. Wylted does that too.
Id blacklist it. Maybe lying about some emchanic within the role is ok or altering the role slightly is ok but not full on lying ever.
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@ILikePie5
There are implied rules within the game, and refusing to claim is a violation of them.
Claiming might be a common strategy, but it's not a rule. As I said, there's no guarantee I'll be lynched for this until it happens.
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@Mikal
To be fair he’s not saying he won’t claim. He’s saying he’s not claiming dp1 as a policy reason.
Doesn’t really matter to me. You claim when you know for a fact that at least 2 townies sus you.
I’d just convert my strategy and lie everytime and if town keeps throwing then it on them.
If you want to throw then there’s no reason for the rest of town to throw. It’s only a reaction to your action.
I want an answer from earth. The longer he doesn’t answer the more I’d think someone is willing to claim their shit early and he’s outright refusing to answer me in DMs or in here. That reads me as odd
He’s not going to answer anything. He never has. It’s a fact that he didn’t give fake claims though.
but not full on lying ever
Austin said he was a supersaint in order to confirm Luna one game (Austin was actually 1x lynchproof). Also power roles lying can help town. Lying is not game throwing.
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@ILikePie5
You claim when you know for a fact that at least 2 townies sus you.
Why 2? Why not 3 or 1? This is just you inventing an arbitrary standard.
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@Savant
Claiming might be a common strategy, but it's not a rule. As I said, there's no guarantee I'll be lynched for this until it happens.
You’re basically already lynched. Luna has already said he will vote you. You’re just wasting time.
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@ILikePie5
Luna has already said he will vote you.
He could be bluffing.
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@Savant
Why 2? Why not 3 or 1? This is just you inventing an arbitrary standard.
I’m saying at a minimum, there are 2 townies in your wagon of 4. There could be more. But guaranteed that 2 townies sus you.
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@Savant
He could be bluffing.
Okay, we will see when he gets back.
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@Savant
He’s saying spirit of the game shit. Which he believes goes against your win con, which I fully disagree with. People lie all the time under pressure or just refuse to cooperate and it’s no diff than just saying you aren’t claiming because it hurts town. I can’t tell you how many times people have made up fake roles, fake characters, pretended they can’t type, blah blah to avoid claiming under pressure. It’s all the same shit.
It’s all game theory but whether people lie, claim, don’t claim, it’s all a moving bar.
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@ILikePie5
I’m saying at a minimum, there are 2 townies in your wagon of 4. There could be more. But guaranteed that 2 townies sus you.
Yeah, and so what? Maybe I'm the cop and want to hide that from scum, and I think you won't get a 5th vote because that's a bluff.
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@ILikePie5
He could be bluffing.Okay, we will see when he gets back.
Yeah, and even if I'm wrong that he could be bluffing, being wrong isn't game throwing.
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@Savant
Luna isn’t bluffing. He will hammer you cus he’s always got this policy lynch mindset. He did it to me for like 3 months and we both were stubborn and refused to stop.
I’d kill him or target him and vice versa. People get invested in the spirit of the game or teaching people a lesson type shi. Granted I don’t disagree with what you are doing, others will etc
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@Savant
Yeah, and so what? Maybe I'm the cop and want to hide that from scum, and I think you won't get a 5th vote because that's a bluff.
So it means townies thing you’re scum and it’s your fucking job to convince them you’re town by cooperating the full claiming. Whether they choose to believe you is a different question.
So you’re counterclaiming Wylted? I think Luna will give the 5th vote. He’s played long enough as he explained earlier in the DP.
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@ILikePie5
@Mikal
He will hammer you cus he’s always got this policy lynch mindset.People get invested in the spirit of the game or teaching people a lesson type shi
And a minute ago, I thought doing something as a policy or to teach people a lesson was game throwing...
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@Savant
I agree with your points.
He won’t lol
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@ILikePie5
it’s your fucking job to convince them you’re town by cooperating the full claiming
I don't have to convince anyone if you don't have the votes to lynch me guaranteed. And it's not a guarantee because it could be a bluff, I have no way of knowing.
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@Savant
Yeah, and even if I'm wrong that he could be bluffing, being wrong isn't game throwing.
You are by definition game throwing right now if you are town. You can disagree all you want. Luna and I will vote you every game as a policy lynch. I suspect others will join me as well.