That crime of coercion in law is for sex, money etc.
Satan never killed anyone. God of Bible killed millions.
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Coercion is a crime too.
By your definition, the law itself is coercive.
That crime of coercion in law is for sex, money etc.
Which is exactly what YOUR Christian God does.
If your God was a person, he would violate almost every law and international law. Clearly dangerous to encourage such extreme interpretations of Christianity here.
I am not claiming you are correct but I will say this:
The Evangelical (so not all, specifically evangelical) Protestant idea that you can interpret God and the Bible how you feel is right and fit God to you, is Satanic.
In fact that is more evil in a way, than directly opposing God openly. It leads the flock dangerously astray.
God intended 1 true religion which means 1 true interpretation. Protestantism is dangerous, especially the 'cute' Evangelical form.
The evangelical (so not all, specifically evangelical) Protestant idea that you can interpret God and the Bible how you feel is right and fit God to you, is Satanic.
The Catholic Church keeps adding official teachings. You could be Catholic and not a heretic 100 years ago while not believing things the Catholic Church teaches today, in fact Catholics literally had to interpret teachings themselves for anything the Church didn't explicitly clarify. Was the Catholic Church okay with being satanic 100 years ago? And there was no official NT canon until a few church councils after Christianity took off...does that make all the early Christians satanic?
The Catholic Church has declared evolution is compatible with the Bible but also that Catholics don't have to believe it. That's literally telling people to decide for themselves on that issue.
I am not claiming you are correct
You dont need to.
"If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them."
Will Adaptable argue for this Bible command to become law as well?
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@Savant
Yes. It evolves. However that must lead the flock.
By evolve I mean as in the 1 true church evolves.
Meanwhile you want me to betray Father to appease peers here. No.
you want me to betray Father to appease peers here. No.
I didn't say your speech should be banned, I said less speech should be banned in general. Even if I'd told you not to offer an opinion in this thread, I don't see how that's a betrayal of Catholic beliefs.
If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.
Will Adaptable argue for this Bible command to become law as well?
In NT Jesus altered the approach.
You see, that specifics of death pebalty and stoning were cultural, not divinely commanded as such. It was made clear through Jesus that as none of us are sinless we are to avoid death penalty a lot more and not cast the first stone of the stoning.
This means now it is altered for Christians. I am unsure why Jews stopped it. As you know, Islam supports it.
In NT Jesus altered the approach.
So God says one thing, then says the opposite later.
I admit idk.
I am new to it and learning NT first (most Catholics say this is wiser).
Idk why OT says to kill the gays. I admit idk how to fully explain the change. I wonder if OT was quoting a Jew saying it rather than God.
I literally do not know right now. I have been taught that part (the stoning to death) is cultural not divine.
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@Savant
Even if I'd told you not to offer an opinion in this thread, I don't see how that's a betrayal of Catholic beliefs.
In our religion unless it is to save your career for the sake of your family's pride and wellbeing (so caving in to cancel culture for the sake of not being broke and a remaining agood breadwinner) there are few reasons to avoid openly defending God and the 1 true faith.
Avoiding doing it to someone that can kick you out from your home is also a valid reason to bide your time and be quiet.
"“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people. 7 Consecrate yourselves, therefore, and be holy, for I am the Lord your God. 8 Keep my statutes and do them; I am the Lord who sanctifies you. 9 For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him."
Okay. I told you some is cultural.
I am a Christian, I follow New Covenant, not Old. The tendency towards death penalty has altered over time and it began with Jesus pushing against it.
The tendency towards death penalty has altered over time and it began with Jesus pushing against it.
So God first commands death penalty for gays and children cursing their parents, and then he changes his mind.
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@AdaptableRatman
@LucyStarfire
So God first commands death penalty for gays and children cursing their parents, and then he changes his mind.
I am not allowed to say he changed his mind as that denies he is all knowing in the first place.
I think the older Jews got this part wrong. He meant punish and they took it as meaning kill (especially stone).
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@Barney
History is allowed to be discussed
No, it isnt.
He meant punish and they took it as meaning kill
So you concede that Bible contains incorrect information. Punish how?
Idk.
I am new to it. I am focused on New Testament for now learning it first.
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@LucyStarfire
Satan never killed anyone in whole Bible.
Before Satan's suggestion to Eve that she would not die, but have knowledge of good an evil, there was no death in the world, and we went only a single generation to Cain, who conspired to kill his brother, Able, to gain Able's possessions and status, and every death by murder and mayhem since is by Satan's influence - though not absolute control, because God grave us all the agency to chose to think and act by our will and not his or Satan's. So, if there is blame for death in the world, it is by our choice.
But, what is death? It's merely a door to further existence, so it is by no means a permanent condition.
Many people, including some Christians, are hung up on this idea that God is the total cause of everything, ignoring that the Genesis account of the events in Eden was that man was given agency to choose to obey God's commands, or deny them, or even just sit on the fence. We are the cause of our misfortunes, not God. Other than creation, and that was shared among several gods, we, somewhat collectively, are responsible for what occurs to us that is not by our own choices. Yes, we personally cause some of our disappointments and injury, and even death. Other cuaues are other people, and natiural disasters, for which I suggest is not God's continued action, either, but the action of others like ourselves and natural events, because nothing about creation, although pronounced "good," is not perfect. Not yet. Perfection is our job to effect it, and it is a process, not a destination, because nothing is predestined. We establish destiny, ourselves, by our thoughts and actions.
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@fauxlaw
every death by murder and mayhem since is by Satan's influence
Not really.
I am going now to calm down and focus on other stuff irl.
LOL.
IRL...Never was there a more comedic opportunity proffered by a single man in his bedroom.
But I will refrain.
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@fauxlaw
@LucyStarfire
Murder and mayhem is the work of humans.
As are the literary characters, referred to as God, Satan and Sauron.
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@zedvictor4
My relationship status is private here.
Idc what you think my life is. If you assume single people have no life to attend to, it makes me wonder about you when you were single.
Someone cannot be pro-life if they defend and support a god that has killed children.