MEEP: New moderators, website redesign, new features, and more! [DISCUSSION]

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@Castin
Amazing, so all the other vitriol spewers here and you pick on me? I barely am rude at all nowadays.

I do have manners and have been honest and patient with you since we met, tbh too honest.

If you want people here that cry and quit over the word 'art' in the name and think that is the issue, be my guest and leave. We have much bigger issues.
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Wisdom from the guy who cant identify himself so keeps appropriating others.

You know barely anything about how free will works inside non Calvinistic Christianity.
As if your Church isn’t a copy and paste of every pagan religion ever. 
Let’s count how many times christianity has ripped off a culture that doesn’t belong to them. 
History Fact-Check

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@Sir.Lancelot
That is your life, counting and hypocrisy "oh you did it so I will do it too" angsty mentality.

The fact is I do not think I ever saw you genuinely form an identity here with your profile pic and other things defining you here without defining it by copying others or what you are agsinst.

Make clearer to us what you identify as. Especially religiously, since you debate religion here.

Arent 87% of your profile pics just copies of me or others?
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The new regime will eventually ban you both. Wait and see.
You like the kid at the lunch table who don't like nobody new comin sittin at yo table. Try and run em all off, till one day everyone get up and leave you all alone. Causes people, normal people, like variety and like to meet new people. Internet is changin all over. Less restrictions, more freedom - a nigga can say what he want. This site already losin from a munbers perspective. You think you gunna thrive if you clamp down when all them other sites are loosenin up? Sounds like you just wanna turn it into the Ratman Lunchtable.
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@AdaptableRatman
Amazing, so all the other vitriol spewers here and you pick on me? I barely am rude at all nowadays.

I do have manners and jave been honest and patient with you since we met, tbh too honest.

If you want people here that cry and quit over the word 'art' in the name and think that is the issue, be my guest and leave. We have much bigger issues.
I want new people, period. Just saying I don't want to miss out on any valuable newcomers because of a misunderstanding that I hadn't considered. More users should be one of our highest priorities.
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@Castin
No. It can definitely backfire.

If we get more forum sh##posters instead of more actual dedicated debaters, it backfires and disgusts or erodes away the passion and joy.

You have to beg for a vote. Your debates are so scary as you put all that effort in for 0 outcome often. We need to get less of the wylteds and more of the Lancelots. Then we can handle taming the Lancelots later.
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Causes people, normal people, like variety and like to meet new people. Internet is changin all over.
'Normal people' cringe or just open their jaw at what they see here.
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The fact is I do not think I ever saw you genuinely form an identity here with your profile pic and other things defining you here without defining it by copying others or what you are agsinst.

Make clearer to us what you identify as. Especially religiously, since you debate religion here.

Arent 87% of your profile pics just copies of me or others?
Agnostic atheist, with a casual interest in discussing theology and religion. 
If a site profile is your whole identity, you have bigger problems to worry about. 

That is your life, counting and hypocrisy "oh you did it so I will do it too" angsty mentality.
How do you expect to psycho-analyze me when you can’t even properly define cultural appropriation? 
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@AdaptableRatman
No. It can definitely backfire.

If we get more forum sh##posters instead of more actual dedicated debaters, it backfires and disgusts or erodes away the passion and joy.

You have to beg for a vote. Your debates are so scary as you put all that effort in for 0 outcome often. We need to get less of the wylteds and more of the Lancelots. Then we can handle taming the Lancelots later.
Frankly, we can't afford to be choosy. The site is a slowly evaporating puddle as it is.
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@Castin
That is literally because we weren't choosy or authoritarian. You have it so backwards.

Reddit is extremely popular amd censors 4x as much as here.
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@Sir.Lancelot
It is appropriation regardless of if it is religious instead of cultural.

You dont even mean it in a good way. You literally don that image while disparaging his faith regularly.
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It is appropriation regardless ot if it is religious instead of cultural.

You dont even mean it in a good way. You literally don that image while disparaging his faith regularly.
This is a fictitious interpretation of The Leper King from a movie. A character reference from pop culture. Not an accurate depiction of the real King Baldwin

Are people appropriating the greeks when they use pfp’s of Leonidas from 300 despite not being pagan? 
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Reddit is extremely popular amd censors 4x as much as here
No, there is literally witchcraft blood magic on Reddit and Tik Tok. Here, you cant even have Meowbahh as your profile photo.
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This is minor, but can we please have dark mode for when we're playing Mafia when we really should be sleeping? 
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The name definitely needs to be changed at some point. Once I told I friend to "check out a site called DebateArt." To this they responded that they weren't an art person. (True story) 

I don't personally have a preference as to what it's changed to, as long as it's clear. 
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I've never been a fan of the name debateart either.
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@AdaptableRatman
That is literally because we weren't choosy or authoritarian. You have it so backwards.

Reddit is extremely popular amd censors 4x as much as here.
We're talking about a simple rebrand here, to make the site simple and inviting to new eyes.
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@Castin
And I am talking about the inverse.
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@Castin
We're talking about a simple rebrand here, to make the site simple and inviting to new eyes.
Yes. A simple rebrand would actually accomplish a lot. Suggestions like these are already 2 steps ahead.
Changing too much at once risks destroying the site because it's curbing the population to an already dying platform while the CoC is sufficient as it is. Just a simple revision here and there, and it would be perfect. 

A site that appeals to a more mainstream audience, which I see as the ultimate middleground between censorship and freedom of speech. 
With controversial subjects being allowed, but a strict ban on anything taboo or illegal. 

The inspiration I'm thinking of is 50% how disney markets its branding, minus the politicization and bias of the left. 
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I am thinking less Disney more College/University debate environment.
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I am thinking less Disney more college/adult debate environment.
That's what I have in mind too. A platform for adults, but with disney-style moderating.
By disney, I mean they have a very effective style of censorship that is super-competent at censoring anything that could be too dark, taboo, or offensive. 

There's valid criticisms of the censorship being too extreme, but they are very in touch with the times and the modernization.
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Formalized and professional, but with a casual touch on it too.
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I don't understand those advocating for morality or word policing here. David literally already tried that and saw both the number of members on the site drop by 80% and the quality of the debaters also declined to best Korea level

Just take the science based results. What has worked or hurt in the past use that
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Formalized and professional, but with a casual touch on it too.
I like dis.
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@Sir.Lancelot
So I say it and its too much, you say it and deny it is censorship.

You are all gaslighting. That is why the other side is angry. You act liberal, stop it. You want authoritarian censorship so own it, admit it.
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I don't understand those advocating for morality or word policing here. David literally already tried that and saw both the number of members on the site drop by 80% and the quality of the debaters also declined to best Korea level
You're an extremophile who thrives on controversy. Overpolicing would destroy your natural habitat. Others are more sensitive, would like more oversight and a feeling of order/safety, and laissez-faire policy would destroy their natural habitat. We're just fighting over the thermostat.

Did site attendance really drop that far? Someone help me out with some solid info here.
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@Castin
It did drop that far. You were here with BSH1 and saw how active and superior debaters were. Do you not remember?

And as far as debaters are concerned it's hard to have good debates on a very narrow range of acceptable opinions. We also miss the opportunity to deradicalize people if they are chased off the site before they have time to get their premises destroyed.
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I did also offer a fair compromise by suggesting word filters. So that way we are protecting those sensitive to certain words while also not jeapordizing our ranking on google

Word filters also do not count as an attack on free speech unless you get more ridiculous with it than I am anticipating is likely. So any topic could be debated but you would have to choose your words wisely
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@Castin
Its still very low. Hes wrong. It was only better than because you had more addicts like ramshutu voting regularly.

This site is a waateland, be acts as it if improved over time, it didnt. The revolution I pushed for years ago is finally coming.
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How many mods are you recruiting?