Feminist Mafia Day 1

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I think it could be Hydra-Ultra if Earth/Wylted lurked.
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Every other player that has posted has towntold now.

Mharman idk if thats towny or he always is that way. 
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@Earth
I don't think Hated Townie is a particularly risky role to fake claim, especially if you have 2 questions to ask if x role is in the game. I'll town read Mikal because he strikes me as a very methodal player and he posts strike me as him reporting his role, offering a SoP lynch and him saying his role deactivates. 
Fair enough reasons to townread him, so I won't argue with you. I just don't really buy that Mikal would enter into scum chat, quickly ask about the existence of a Hated role, and then just go for an SOP claim, especially without knowing whether it turns off MYLO/LYLO. Just seems like something he'd be more prepared to answer if this was all planned out.

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Townreads:
Casey
Mikal
WF

Mharman is a smaller TR.

Scumreads:
Ultra
Earth/Wylted hydra

2 left to post:
Barney
Lunatic
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Id read myself Town so far.

I like to read myself but learned to not rate myself on the list as it is cringe.
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Vote Ultra please.
He at least posted that he's here (which makes him more active so far than Barney and Luna), so I'll see what his contributions look like tomorrow when I come back. For now, signing off.

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@whiteflame
Yes that is scummy. Why did he know I voted him to show up fast to say Hi and only Hi?

Offsite comms? This is not the same type of lurking he did prior.
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@Casey_Risk
Yes it was primarily based on that.
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@whiteflame
  • Mikal towny claim
  • Casey switchup from previous scumgame temperament is significant
  • You seem very interested in the game also switched up and were scum last game.
  • Mharman I cant read well, he seems towny enough.
  • Earth shows up, idk if that counts as towny for him. Wylted didnt show up yet.
  • Ultra says hi after I vote him. Just hi. Just at the right time. Odd.

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 I will agree with Mikal that RM’s start is weird. Question 1 doesn’t bother me since I can see him dwelling on something that happened in a previous game. Q2-3 are the ones that bother me. Q2 could run on the logic that as long as he behaves in the way he was asked, he’s hard to scumread. Q3 would be more aimed at figuring what he needs to do regarding a fake claim, such as what questions he needs to ask the mod, what angle he goes at for a fake claim, how much risk he can take with one, etc

The thing is, RM is weird. There’s a few players in this site that will sometimes just do weird shit, even as town. RM is on that list for sure, I can already say.

The reads he’s posted look like normal behavior. Noting the read on Casey tho

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I don’t Casey’s start either. Much less. If anything looks like fishing for info, I agree that it’s more likely to be Casey. The theme split stuff just seems weird to me. No real reason to theorize that right now.

Also, in that same post, she suggests a mass soft… but doesn’t start with her own. Usually when people do these things they just start one and offer themselves as the first to go. Instead she just kinda asked everyone else if they wanted to.

First half 24 also stands out like it’s just a red herring. I’m not gonna concern myself about fake claims that were given to scum, I think pretty obvious they weren’t and I think Casey knows this. 2+2 together; if they had fake claims they wouldn’t need the ability to ask the mod questions about what is/isn’t in the game.
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  • Casey switchup from previous scumgame temperament is significant
So, what makes you townread Casey now, after saying earlier that she could be fishing for info?
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@Mharman
I doubt Casey actually identifies as she, until told I will call Casey he or they.

Town fish for info. It happens. In fact Town is more interested than Scum in which role all others have, if you think hard about it.

Casey vibes towny to me if lat game was Casey as scum especially. It is obvious his entire approach here is to lead and solve.
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I’m still okay with killing RM. I think his posts are manufactured and he’s way less aggressive than he normally is. If you compare the past 2 games he was town, this one is a completely different style of play. If not kill, I’d like to get a full claim 
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Ultra is null. I thought about if there was something there with him only showing up after he was voted without being pinged.

Thing is, people can show up at coincidental times and it’s happened plenty before. I’ll suspend judgement for now.

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Whiteflame is null. All he’s posted are some reads and nothing sticks out to me.
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I am allowed to lie about my role if voted, yes?

I have my reasons.
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Town fish for info. It happens. In fact Town is more interested than Scum in which role all others have, if you think hard about it.

Casey vibes towny to me if lat game was Casey as scum especially. It is obvious his entire approach here is to lead and solve.
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and he risked getting CCed right out the gate
From my read of Mikal. Scum having questions mitigates this bit, but it seems like a waste of questions then. Especially since he’s probably the DP2 lynch if we mislynch here.
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Did you get an answer on if your role is affected by MYLO/LYLO?
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Earth is also null.
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I think Earth will be easier to read based on Wylted’s behavior.
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@Mharman
It is better to leave voting me for later. Trust me on this if you are Town. I am talking wait until DP3. Ignore Mikal.
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@Casey_Risk
A vote on Ultra is ideal here if you are willing. Straight up force the claim.
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It deactivates. Mentioned above 
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Did you just claim lol. You can’t half ass soft a claim like that. You are better full claiming 
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No I am not better fullclaiming.
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Give me 2 DPs and NPs more. I will have proven myself.
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I will like you all to see this role:


I am either a role that is similar to that but not that, a protective role or I am something like an arms dealer.

I hardclaim noninvestigative.

I refuse to character claim. I am not a lesbian character, if that helps.

It is in every towny's best interest to not investigate me. It may backfire or be a waste of time.
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I am telling you that my role is special and it is a role where visiting me ends up a waste as I will have done useful stuff by end of NP2.