Feminist Mafia Day 1

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@Earth
You're Joan of Arc. You defied gender norms and led an army and cross dressed. You were made Patron Saint of France. So, you're the Super saint.
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@AdaptableRatman
If forced I have a claim. Once I claim you are doomed.
I don't understand why you see this as a meaningful threat. Your willingness to lie about your role repeatedly and stonewall any other attempts makes any claim you make at this point suspect.

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Votes:

Ratman (3/5): Lunatic, Ultra, Casey
Lunatic (1/5): Ratman
Whiteflame (1/5): Mikal
Ultra (1/5): Mharman

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@Mikal
I also want to point out this is the first game I’ve been in that ultra has not been replaced or actually tried in. His normally activist is absent or town. 
He was low-activity in the previous game, but he was also super low-activity in Debate Mafia (to the point of being completely absent from DP2 in that one as well), but he was scum in that game. His activity here feels similar to his other town games other than Skyrim.
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In a perfect world we need RM to hammer ultra and I think we get scum one way or the other. 
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I’m going to say his pm Structure does not match mine at all 
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@Casey_Risk
Wait, he did? Where? I think I missed that.
Mis read him or misunderstood sorry
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You're Joan of Arc. You defied gender norms and led an army and cross dressed. You were made Patron Saint of France. So, you're the Super saint.


I don’t want to lean to much into mod pyche but there is a lot of very noticeable and Distinct differences with this and mine. 
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@whiteflame
I'd prefer just lynching the person we think is most likely scum, but if the majority think that's Ultra, then I guess we have to have a pretty solid second pick hammer.
I don't think the majority are leaning ultra, I think its AR
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My gut is telling me it’s wf and ultra 
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@Mikal
In a perfect world we need RM to hammer ultra and I think we get scum one way or the other. 
In a perfect world, yes. Like Wylted and I said, however, it's a negative freeroll. If AR is scum, he's just not going to be the hammer. And if he's town, he's also probably not going to be the hammer (he said he wouldn't, and it's one of the only statements he's made so far that I actually trust was the truth). So if Ultra is town, whoever hammers him is likely also going to be town (that's actually true regardless). Going for Ultra as the hammer is a huge risk here. Granted, he could be scum and we lose nothing, but if he's town, we almost definitely lose more than if we lynch any other townie.
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Obviously the one I provided is a lot different from the one I received. 
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@Mikal
Luna just pings me behaviorally odd as some of his pushes seem Opportunistic.
Ultra is the most oppertunistic push here, and I am the only one defending him besides casey lol. 
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the above makes me scum read him more. I think WF typed up a fake claim for him 

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@Casey_Risk
Basically, if Ultra felt pressured into claiming, it can only be because of AR pushing him. But that makes no sense if AR and Ultra are scum buddies. I also do not buy that the Ultra lynch is a DP1 bus from AR.
I know this is for mharman but I am not confident RM is scum. I am willing to vote based on him lying and his behavior. I won't slow down the game to defend him but I think ultra is scum with well I don't know who with
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@Mikal
Also could be Luna wf. Mainly looking slightly at Luna because he is really wanting to push the rm lynch so hard 
You were too, and I still don't understand why you changed. I provided a whole case of behavioral analysis to back the push up. 
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@Lunatic
I agree with this to an extent but it’s why I read it as scummy.  RM is also opportunistic but it’s also a way for someone to steer it away from Ultra while saying scum would want to kill him cus if he is super saint. He takes someone with him. 

I think you are good enough to see this and going for RM would be better for you if you are scum. 
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@Lunatic
I’m still okay with RM. But I can’t shake he’s just being dumb. 


Eveyrthing ultra has said just hits me wrong. 
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Current order for me is 

WF
Ultra 
RM
Luna 



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Why don't we all vote for our favorite between ultra and RM and then see where the chips fall and which side is more open to negotiate. 
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@Lunatic
I don't think the majority are leaning ultra, I think its AR
That's my impression. I understand that lynch a great deal more because AR's made pretty clear that he's going to be hard if not impossible to get a straight answer from until DP3.

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I still would like to hear what RM's justification for his crazy OMGUS is. 
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@Mikal
I agree with this to an extent but it’s why I read it as scummy.  RM is also opportunistic but it’s also a way for someone to steer it away from Ultra while saying scum would want to kill him cus if he is super saint. He takes someone with him. 

I think you are good enough to see this and going for RM would be better for you if you are scum. 

Bro you are over thinking this soooo hard
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@WyIted
Why don't we all vote for our favorite between ultra and RM and then see where the chips fall and which side is more open to negotiate. 
So far, everyone except Barney, WF, and you has cast a vote already. Mikal and AR are both on someone other than one of those two but it's obvious where Mikal stands.
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@Mikal
I’m still okay with RM. But I can’t shake he’s just being dumb. 
He's openly lying and hurting town. It's not just dumb, it's insane. We can literally not trust a thing he says, and theres apparently a chance he isn't even confirmed dp3 by his own admission. 

Eveyrthing ultra has said just hits me wrong. 
Literally just his claim lol I mean this is 100% overthinking, this player isn't one of the higher posters, hes either gambled a risky fake claim against his partners wishes, or hes just genuinely the thing he claims. 
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I know I’m not getting WF but he’s my pick 

I’d rather do ultra next 

In a perfect world rm needs to hammer ultra 
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@Casey_Risk
Earth has shown some skepticism towards ultra but I don't know if it's strong enough for a vote. With RM I think we are both on the same page for that being an acceptable lynch
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@Barney
Come to think of it, if Barney is scum, we're letting him skate by this game. Pinging for activity. I know you have a lot to catch up on but I at least want to hear something substantive from you before this DP is over.
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@Lunatic
I don’t see this as risky tbh. I think it’s extremely safe and surprised more people aren’t questioning it. 
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Like I said I don’t want to mod pyche to hard but his pm structure is also fundamentally diff than mine