Atypical Day Phase 1

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I distinctly remember Mikal calling his day vig gambit a reaction test, but whatever. I guess Vader is a good pick to get a fullclaim from.
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No I def called it a reaction test. I acknowledged that. I’m just saying it was not a real reaction test. No one would believe that and react to it lol. Was meant to just get me town read and spam with fluff a bit 
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We're six pages in. Only half the players have meaningfully contributed so far. I'm not going to pull a read out of thin air until I've seen a decent amount of activity from someone.
I’ve formed opinions and I’ve interacted with people half as much as you. It just comes off as if your calculating people you should scum read and putting the in a more negotiable position out of convenience .

I still scum read Mikal but if he's town I don't want to tunnel him all day phase.
You’ve only had a couple back and forth with him that is hardly tunneling. How do you expect to pursue your reads or accomplish anything without pressuring them?

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Town block 

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Pie 
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@iamanabanana
I’ve formed opinions and I’ve interacted with people half as much as you.
I've already said why I don't think your posts are alignment indicative. You've behaved like this as either alignment. The accusing me thing is new and I'll think about whether it's opportunistic but besides that you've been null to me.

How do you expect to pursue your reads or accomplish anything without pressuring them?
I don't need to pressure him this early in the day phase, nor is there enough will in the town to put votes on him. Plus, he's already made it clear he won't yield to pressure as either alignment. My early reads are historically worse than the rate of chance, hence why I'm not overly committed to them.
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I feel like you do this basically every game and as usual, I end up town.
You know, one of these times I'm going to end up being right, lol.

The reason I was leaning scum on you was because your push on Ultra felt opportunistic to me. I wouldn't expect him to open like that as scum. He's a fairly passive player as both alignments, but seems to be slightly more involved as town from my memory. Also, he didn't mastermind the CC in Villainous Villains, his partners literally told him to do that. I will say, however, that since you've backed down a bit, you're now close to null again for me. Not just because you backed off your read, but the way in which you did. 

As for Mikal, his aggressive scumread on me right at the beginning of this game also felt a bit opportunistic, and I'm really not sure I believe in his 'reaction tests'. I don't think I've seen him do that as town before. His progression from scumreading me to including me in the town block also feels unnatural. More generally, something about him just feels different to me this game, more like his behavior in Game Shows than Skyrim or Feminism. I can't quite put my finger on why exactly, it's just vibes, but I don't like them. 
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I will say that #158 is a sharply towny post from Mikal, however. That's some solid tell spotting. 
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@Savant
Ultra - Null - Hasn't been active enough in previous games for me to know their personality.
Ultracrepidarian and Owen_T are the same person in case you didn't know.
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I'll look back at Owen games if I get the chance, don't remember them super well.
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On my way to work, will update the vote count when I get there.
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@Savant
I'll save you some time. I basically had no idea what was happening, town read everyone, and vomited fluff until I got lynched. 
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My character has autism too 
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It’s not animals rights then. It’s autism Themed. 

Which makes sense with the a typical thing 
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@Mikal
What are you thoughts on Post 179? Does it seem like a scum Banana thing to say based on your experience with her in the scum PM? The first time I caught her as scum, she was aggressive just like this, targeting me
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I will say that #158 is a sharply towny post from Mikal, however. That's some solid tell spotting. 
I agree with this. I had him in my town pile before that post, but it’s made my read stronger
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You know, there's something about this game that I don't think has been brought up yet, and I think it's interesting that it hasn't been mentioned.
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@ILikePie5
Anna is very good at mimicking town behavior and I feel like is consistent with her metas. She is very active in mafia PMS and plans pretty well. I think a very underated player. 


I am getting scum vibes from most of her posts other than the first one. The first seemed pretty town and genuinely surprised her character had autism. It was the way she laid out. Like oh yeah I just did some looking and mine does it. Just felt innocent but all the posts after that feel off 
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Owen is my hardest town read atm 

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Updated Block:

Town:
Pie
Casey
Mikal
Savant


Null:

Earth
Vader
Wylted


Scum:

Owen
Banana
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Official Vote Count:

Vader- 2/5- Pie, Mikal
Savant- 1/5- Banana

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@Mikal
Owen is my hardest town read atm 
I still don’t buy it tbh, but I’m reasonably sure both scum are in the 5 null/scum pile: Banana, Ultra, Earth, Wylted, Vader.

Claims should clear the picture a little more, and then it’s just POE


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I don’t disagree with this 

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Except for ultra. I just hard see him as town 
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We largely have the same block other than Owen
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Gonna be honest if Mikal is scum I'm having a very difficult time finding his partner. They could just be avoiding each other completely, but Mikal's been tough to read in the past so I my initial instinct may have been wrong.
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@Mikal
I am getting scum vibes from most of her posts other than the first one. The first seemed pretty town and genuinely surprised her character had autism. It was the way she laid out. Like oh yeah I just did some looking and mine does it. Just felt innocent but all the posts after that feel off.
Are you scum reading banana for "acting different than usual" or something else? As much as people get scum read for acting different than usual, I don't think it's particularly alignment indicative.
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@Savant
No I think her style of posting and how she attacked you is similar to her scum game with me. It’s a weak read but I think the posting style and direct attack is meant to deflect. 

The first post, again is towny. It’s just the stuff after seems odd and I can’t put my finger on exactly why other than it feels similar 
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@Mikal
No I think her style of posting and how she attacked you is similar to her scum game with me. It’s a weak read but I think the posting style and direct attack is meant to deflect.
I can see that. I myself am not sure whether the post attacking Savant more likely came from scum Banana or town Banana. It did kinda come out of nowhere.
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If its scummy to pursue our scum reads how do we expect to accomplish anything?

Like I am good with waiting for vader to come on, I don't see what ultra would really say more than what he already did, and savant is active and here. Idk. I am starting to wonder if mikal and savant were bussing, like what he did with me as scum. Because he seemed to back off it real quick the second I joined in pressuring savant.

Interesting.
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@iamanabanana
If its scummy to pursue our scum reads how do we expect to accomplish anything?
It's not scummy if you actually suspect me, but I'm having a hard time following what part of my posts you thought was so scummy. Not having a lot of confidence in my reads, I guess? Like I said, there's plenty of day phase left and my early reads haven't been super accurate. I'd bet a pretty penny there's at least one scum among the inactives, but none of them has posted enough to stand out.