Atypical Day Phase 1

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@Savant
It's not scummy if you actually suspect me, but I'm having a hard time following what part of my posts you thought was so scummy. Not having a lot of confidence in my reads, I guess? Like I said, there's plenty of day phase left and my early reads haven't been super accurate. I'd bet a pretty penny there's at least one scum among the inactives, but none of them has posted enough to stand out.
Well even this post itself, it's redirecting your attention to inactives who is really just vader. I guess there is a chance it could be him and while we should definitely hear from him, I think its a bit of the "easy route" when its clear you have other reads. You seem to back off of them the second you get any pressure back, and let's be honest, it's much easier to target someone who is inactive. I know because I am usually the inactive one and have get forced to claim a lot as town when I am. So part of me doesn't really buy that you actually think there is a scum in the inactives, but that it's the path of least resistance. When you were coming off more aggressive earlier, now it appears your trying to shrink back a little bit and let the attention fall off of you. That's just the vibe I am getting, I could be wrong, but if I am being honest your the only one that hasn't really stood out to me as town where others have. I am starting to feel similarly about mikal though, and if you are scum I wonder if he is your partner. The more I think about your interaction with him the more it looks faked, as if neither of you were really planning on "pressuring" the other, but looking as if you were.

I'll think on it though.
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Will catch up. Sorry was caught up in a poker game last night 
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I know I’m getting some pressure based on pinged votes but who you are thinking of is right if it’s what I believe the definition of atypical is. Also think about the most obvious fucking role that it could be for them

I don’t want to say too much more because I am pretty unsure of balance mechanics 
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Why is RM in this thread bruh 
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I want to hold off on a full claim from myself for now. I will full claim right anway and in entirety DP2. Depending on what happens in the NP I feel like I can either narrow down the POE significantly and/or catch scum 
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Unvote 

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Official Vote Count:

Vader- 1/5- Pie
Savant- 1/5- Banana
Earth- 1/5- Mikal


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I can see that. I myself am not sure whether the post attacking Savant more likely came from scum Banana or town Banana. It did kinda come out of nowhere.
Ya exactly, and in her first game as scum, I picked up on this aggression against me and got her lynched. 
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@iamanabanana
If its scummy to pursue our scum reads how do we expect to accomplish anything?
No, it’s not. The way you did it scummy imo

Like I am good with waiting for vader to come on, I don't see what ultra would really say more than what he already did, and savant is active and here. Idk. I am starting to wonder if mikal and savant were bussing, like what he did with me as scum. Because he seemed to back off it real quick the second I joined in pressuring savant. 

Interesting.
I don’t buy it. I townread them both atm
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I know I’m getting some pressure based on pinged votes but who you are thinking of is right if it’s what I believe the definition of atypical is. Also think about the most obvious fucking role that it could be for them

I don’t want to say too much more because I am pretty unsure of balance mechanics 
The frustration here doesn’t make sense to me.

I want to hold off on a full claim from myself for now. I will full claim right anway and in entirety DP2. Depending on what happens in the NP I feel like I can either narrow down the POE significantly and/or catch scum
I think he’s soft claiming a certain role, but that role has been used as a fake claim before. Don’t know if I buy it. 
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@Vader
Post your reads please
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@iamanabanana
Do you town read everyone besides Savant?
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I’m not sure I do either but I’m okay with leaving it for now and going to earth. 
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@Mikal
I don’t think you’ve commented on Wylted’s claim? What do you think about it?
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@Earth
Post your reads please
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@WyIted
Are you scum? Why or why not? And why should I believe you?
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I figured and maybe im wrong this has been tested? I’m not going to lie, I am not reading back much and going off memory cus work. But have we tested this to confirm he is at least role confirmed. If so, again okay with leaving it alone 


We have a pretty hard soft claim 
And a full claim 

Going for much more (we need one more and I’d rather it be someone who is not typically active). Is where I want to stop 
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No, it’s not. The way you did it scummy imo
Kay, mansplain to me how I am scum when I am town. Lol I press one read "instantly scummy".

I don’t buy it. I townread them both atm
Okay put your money where your mouth is, and tell me why in detail savant is town?

Do you town read everyone besides Savant?
Nope, I have no real read on earth, and vader didn't really say much despite being pinged for activity. I am not discounting either as scum but I think it would be pretty convenient if both the inactives happened to be scum. I am considering mikal as a scum partner for that faked looking back and forth with savant, I am probably re-consindering my town read on you, since you are hard defending savant now for seemingly no reason, and he already did the same to you early on when mikal reaction tested you. I agree with people about wylteds claim, it seems pretty realistic, and kind of doesn't seem like a good fake claim, its more likely its just real. Casey is town based on her hint and what I think she is. Ultra is an option as well.
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@Mikal
I figured and maybe im wrong this has been tested? I’m not going to lie, I am not reading back much and going off memory cus work. But have we tested this to confirm he is at least role confirmed. If so, again okay with leaving it alone 


We have a pretty hard soft claim 
And a full claim 

Going for much more (we need one more and I’d rather it be someone who is not typically active). Is where I want to stop 
It can’t be tested. Basically Wylted can only hammer someone. He can’t place a vote before a hammering vote. If he does, he gets modkilled. No way to really confirm that.
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@Vader
Did you catch up yet? Interested in hearing your thoughts.
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I'd like hear more from both of you as well :)
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Did the verbiage say he would be mod killed ?

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@Mikal
Did the verbiage say he would be mod killed ?

"I am the actor and I cannot vote unless it is to hammer. If I vote without hammering or intending to hammer than I can be mod killed  it's written in a way where if I intend to hammer but fuck up I won't be mod killed but if the intent is lacking I am mod killed for placing a non hammer vote. "

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If Wylted is scum, he's made the game extremely hard for himself with that claim. Which also kind of leads me to think its a truth claim
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@iamanabanana
Kay, mansplain to me how I am scum when I am town. Lol I press one read "instantly scummy".
This honestly makes me scum read you even more. It’s identical to your scum play in the first game you were scum with Whiteflame. Your aggression is what makes you scum. The instant placement of the vote.

Okay put your money where your mouth is, and tell me why in detail savant is town?
I think his soft claim method was the perfect balance between too broad and too narrow. The theme analysis is also towny from him. He’s also not afraid to pursue hard to lynch targets like Mikal for example. The reaction test tell argument he put screamed town to me as well. 

Nope, I have no real read on earth, and vader didn't really say much despite being pinged for activity. I am not discounting either as scum but I think it would be pretty convenient if both the inactives happened to be scum. I am considering mikal as a scum partner for that faked looking back and forth with savant, I am probably re-consindering my town read on you, since you are hard defending savant now for seemingly no reason, and he already did the same to you early on when mikal reaction tested you. I agree with people about wylteds claim, it seems pretty realistic, and kind of doesn't seem like a good fake claim, its more likely its just real. Casey is town based on her hint and what I think she is. Ultra is an option as well.
Okay so you’re basically OMGUSing me

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@iamanabanana
If Wylted is scum, he's made the game extremely hard for himself with that claim. Which also kind of leads me to think its a truth claim
How so?
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Read this for my Banana read. I’m pretty sure she’s scum. There’s one specific thing she said just now that solidifies my read too
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This honestly makes me scum read you even more. It’s identical to your scum play in the first game you were scum with Whiteflame. Your aggression is what makes you scum. The instant placement of the vote.
I have been aggressive in other games as well, with cerulean when he was scum, with mharman when he was scum, etc. I am more aggressive in games when I am active. If I am not caught up, obviously I am not going to be aggressive because I don't know what's going on, and this is usually the case in the games I am playing. It's not that I am passive, its that I am not aware of whats going on most of the time. When I am, I pursue reads just like everyone else.

I think his soft claim method was the perfect balance between too broad and too narrow. The theme analysis is also towny from him. He’s also not afraid to pursue hard to lynch targets like Mikal for example. The reaction test tell argument he put screamed town to me as well. 
I don't know why when he pushes people for soft claims it's townie, but when I do it, it's considered scummy lol. Also town wasn't informed of the theme in this game. Knowledge of the theme is actually kind of suspicious in my opinion. Especially since his theory appears to me correct for almost everyone so far.

Okay so you’re basically OMGUSing me

VTL Banana
I mentioned multiple people including mikal, earth, vader and ultra that I didn't town read yet as well, and somehow you latched on to me pointing one thing out about you as "OMGUS". This comes off as VERY defensive lol.
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Im Okay with testing wylted claim. I don’t buy the mod kill part. I think it would just not count. I say make him vote. 
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How so?
He's limited himself to only being able to hammer. Which means he cannot take advantage of mislynches as easily. I do not see scum being willing to do that so readily.