I feel like this role is an exception and it's not anti game to modkill myself though I would normally be opposed to it
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A hypothetical mod kill would end the day phase.
Hold on I have to ask in my PM because it doesn't say modkill it says will end in my death so let me check
Will update if I get the answer
He said it ends the DP. I literally think he just made up that rule though because he didn't anticipate that it could be used in a pro town way
I want to town read Mikal for stating that publicly because I feel like scum would want me to continue to think I could self terminate and still get a lynch
and I will only answer questions regarding your own roles, or how roles that have flipped publicly interact with your role, etc.
This makes me think wylted is town locked.
I genuinely do not see the point in having Wylted confirm his role. It's just asking for the equivalent of a mislynch on DP1, and I townread Wylted rn. I do not support having Wylted demonstrate his role at all.
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@Lunatic
Would you answer a question about a hypothetical role that did not exist
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@Mikal
Would you answer a question about a hypothetical role that did not exist?
No I will answer questions about roles that have flipped in the graveyard and how they interact with your role etc
As for Banana... Yeah, I don't really like her strong aggression here. It feels different from the way she normally talks about her scumreads as town. I'll have to go back and look at her previous games, but I'm not liking her behavior right now.
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@Mikal
I think everyone and their dog adds that rule about graveyard roles in their games.
I'm doing a quick ISO of Banana, I'll post my thoughts after. Wylted is town.
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@iamanabanana
Because why would you assume they wouldn't just read the thread and form their own conclusions? You tagging people like that feels like you are trying to use your "popularity" and reputation to entice people to take your side. You don't see me tagging everyone and their dog trying to sell my points. I assume they are grown adults who can read themselves. That's why it feels manipulative, almost like you are trying to capitalize on hoping they are lazy enough to bandwagon you here.
This argument makes no sense to me. Pie posted a thread asking people to compare your behavior in the hopes that people would... Just be too lazy to do so and just vote for you? If he was trying to lean on his own popularity, why not just do exactly that?
I think we are up the wrong tree with Anna. I’m telling you it feels different than when I was mafia with her.
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@Casey_Risk
It’s a peer pressure thing, and the fact that you’re taking his side shows that him pinging you had the intended effect. It’s whatever. If you scum read me you scum read me I’m not going to fight it because it will just make you scum read me worse since apparently there is this narrative that I only pursue scum reads as scum. Which is ridiculous but if that’s what you all think than I will have to just keep being more active in games to show that’s not the case.
Anyways what do you want? Character claim? Role claim? I know how this ends if I don’t comply and I don’t wanna waste time arguing this nonsense and I’d like to go back to focusing on savant so let me know.
Wylted hasn't done anything to really sus me out and I buy his claim. Him outing his role does seem to be a SOP move so I can comfortably place him in my town pile and move on.
Banana I have been ISO reading. At the time of writing this, I'm actually only half done, but she has been very active and engaging with everyone. If she is scum, shes choosing to do so, and I sense confidence in her posts. I don't remember her invoking misogyny before, so it does seem a bit out of place and I am not sure if its genuine.
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@Mikal
Maybe you are mafia again with her. Still, Banana is a null for me.
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@Earth
If I was mafia with her, we’d be distancing and I would not be defending her. I just think she is an easy target because she’s new and people are fabricating reads a bit.
Which bothers me because most of my town reads on her.
Town reads are on her *
Updated reads:
Casey - Town - I feel pretty confident about reading Casey. I think they tend to shrink back more as scum and focus more on reading players as town. So far their play has matched their town meta. Especially the concern about confirming Wylted's role.
Pie - Town Lean - Based on my theory about the theme, I do think Pie is probably telling the truth about his character (won't go into too much detail there). While I do kind of agree with his points about banana, the way he's aggressively going about it could be opportunistic. I know Pie is aggressive as either affiliation, but he tends to go into more detail as town. I think the character is a stronger read for me than behavior, though, so I'm leaning town overall
Wylted - Town Lean - I'm detecting annoyance from the posts criticizing him, not really fear of losing the game. Wylted is another player I feel I can read decently well, and I think the emotions are genuine.
Ultra - Town Lean - The self-deprecating post about previous games felt very towny for some reason. Maybe because I don't think a scum player would find ways to call themselves out. There's also some effort toward analysis of Pie's past behavior.
Earth - Null - Looking back, I see a lot of fluff posting and just being reactive. It's good that he was open about his role information, but then the more recent posts don't seem super towny.
Vader - Null - I don't like the inactivity, but he's offered to full claim dp2. I expect a good claim then, but I don't have much to work with until that happens.
Banana - Scum Lean - The more I look back at her posts, the more opportunistic the behavior seems. I've been scum read as town by town players before, but usually there's at least some logic to the accusation. In banana's case, she seem to be deliberately misinterpreting posts, such as claiming that Mikal was scum reading me and then stopped or criticizing that I null read inactives and then further scum reading me when I mentioned inactives in response to that point.
Mikal - Scum Lean - The stuff he says about reaction tests not being a real reaction test still doesn't make sense to me, and his largely just agreeing with a lot of what Pie said felt a bit like buddying. Seems to be playing the game fairly opportunistically.
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@ILikePie5
Oh look at that. savant magically scum reads me now. You going to call that omgus pie or does savant get a pass for that when you accused me of omgus for a much lighter scum tell on you?
Don’t be a hypocrite now.
One of the people on the banana train is prob scum.
I think it’s possible be 1 there and an inactive.
Which makes me think im wrong on one of my reads
I’m pretty town locked on Owen
Which makes me think 1 is between savant, pie, and Casey
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@Savant
The more I look back at her posts, the more opportunistic the behavior seems.
If I’m the only one scum reading you, how is that “opportunistic”?
I've been scum read as town by town players before, but usually there's at least some logic to the accusation. In banana's case, she seem to be deliberately misinterpreting posts, such as claiming that Mikal was scum reading me and then stopped
I mean him and you interactions literally did stop out of the blue. That’s fact. Not a misrepresentation.
criticizing that I null read inactives and then further scum reading me when I mentioned inactives in response to that point.
I think you only focusing on inactive sup until you OMGUS me is a bit convenient. Like I said to pie. Do you seriously think every scum member is in the inactive pile? You don’t think one active person or veteran player would be scum here? Isn’t that kind of convenient? It’s not impossible I just find it wierd that you and now pie don’t seem to want to focus on active players when others are.
Updated town
Wylted
Owen
Banana
Poe (1 scum)
Pie
Savant
Casey
Earth and Super. Possibly the other here.
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@Mikal
One of the people on the banana train is prob scum.
Why? Not clear to me how you went from scum reading banana's posts to scum reading everyone else scum reading her.
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@iamanabanana
FWIW I never thought accusing someone who accuses you is always wrong. I've caught multiple scum that way. You being accused of an OMGUS has nothing to do with my read on you, but I scum read you for reasons that would apply regardless of who you accused. Even when Mikal was town reading me, he was in my PoE.
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@Savant
I said the first post seemed town like heavy town and the follow up posts seemed scummy. Her response to the wagon seems like general annoyance and not like a “I got caught annoyance” but a “this shit happens every game annoyance”
We were doing theatre in our scum game but she was pretty laid back and not aggressive toward anyone other than me mostly. Even in chat her default personality is and was “don’t tell me I can’t do this, I’ll do it”. She was annoyed at I had to bus her and almost wanted to 1v1 me as scum as a pride thing. Her doing this to everyone who is reading her pings me as annoyance and Genuine frustration
So town to me is
Owen
Her
Wylted - I think Connor actually answering this threw me a bit because he heavily implied he would stay out of the game unless it was about roles in the game. This has almost mod locked wylted to me but I could be wrong and overthinking this
That being said I don’t think scum is strictly just earth and supa
so I think one of my other town reads are wrong. Riz reverse engineering the hard town reads and working backwards from that. There is also free pressure on her now. If I were going in order between the 3 of you.
It’s prob
Pie
Casey
You
Town to least
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@iamanabanana
It’s a peer pressure thing, and the fact that you’re taking his side shows that him pinging you had the intended effect.
Pie does not have that much influence. Case in point - earlier in this very game when he raising suspicion against Ultra, which immediately got shot down by pretty much everyone. We are actually able to think for ourselves here. Only noobs tend to cling to Pie.
If you scum read me you scum read me I’m not going to fight it because it will just make you scum read me worse since apparently there is this narrative that I only pursue scum reads as scum. Which is ridiculous but if that’s what you all think than I will have to just keep being more active in games to show that’s not the case.
It's not merely that you are pursuing your scumreads, it's the way in which you are doing so. You feel a lot more fiery and intense about your scumreads as scum by my recollection.
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@Mikal
Her response to the wagon seems like general annoyance and not like a “I got caught annoyance” but a “this shit happens every game annoyance”
I also felt the same way in her first scum game and defended her on this line of logic.
We were doing theatre in our scum game but she was pretty laid back and not aggressive toward anyone other than me mostly. Even in chat her default personality is and was “don’t tell me I can’t do this, I’ll do it”. She was annoyed at I had to bus her and almost wanted to 1v1 me as scum as a pride thing. Her doing this to everyone who is reading her pings me as annoyance and Genuine frustration
That's a fair point and I will take that into consideration. I still think she leans scum overall.