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Hello everyone,

The discussion period has ended. It is time to vote.  For those unfamiliar with the MEEP process:

Moderation may submit questions and proposals regarding moderation policy, voting policy, and the code of conduct to Moderation Engagement and Enactment Processes (MEEPs). MEEPs are binding referenda and comment periods on the questions and proposals submitted. Moderation has full discretion on which questions and proposals are submitted to MEEPs, though no substantive change to the COC may be made without either the consent of the site owner(s) or ratification via a MEEP. In order for a submitted question or proposal to be ratified, at least 10 users must have voted in the MEEP, and more than a majority of all those voting must have voted for the question or proposal. That means, in practice, that in a MEEP with 10 total voters, the minimum threshold for a binding result is 7 votes in favor of the proposal or question. MEEPs must be open for voting for at least 48 hours, and may be extended (at the mod's discretion) by no more than 12 hours. To be eligible to vote in a MEEP, the voter must be a user on DART, must have an account that is more than 24 hours old, and must not be banned during the voting window. If a MEEP fails to produce a binding result, moderation will maintain the pre-MEEP status quo, unless doing so is entirely untenable.

Proposition 1: New moderators

Part 1: Should DART bring on new moderators?

A. Yes
B. No

Part 2: If yes, who should those moderators be? You can vote for more than one. If voting for more than one please rank your preferences. Here are the applications we received:

A. AdaptableRatman
B. Sir.Lancelot - Withdrew
C. Mikal
D. Savant
E. Lemming 
F. Swagnarok

All moderators are subject to a 30-day trial period before being given full moderator powers. 

Note: If I missed anyone please DM me. 

Proposition 2: Should the website be rebranded to a different domain name

A. Yes
B. No

If yes wins there will be a separate MEEPs and discussion on what that new name will be. As of now we have only 13 days left until the website domain expires. The last message I received from Mike was on 6//11/2025. We are working on creating a backup community in the event that the website is shut down. Please standby for additional announcements. 

Proposition 3: Updating the COC 

Should the COC prohibit the use of racial slurs?


1. Use of racial slurs

Currently the code of conduct is quite clear on hateful conduct, but there is no guidance in the COC on the use of slurs. Here is the current COC on hateful conduct:

  • You may not use hateful, harassing, or obscene language or imagery in your username or avatar.
  • You may not threaten or promote violence against any person or persons, barring hyperbole against public figures (e.g., “all politicians should be shot”). Advocacy in favor of terrorism and/or violent extremism, especially as related to hate groups as generally defined by the SPLC, is likewise prohibited.
  • Unwarranted systemic vulgarity and invectives, which may include off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech, are subject to disciplinary actions.
If a user has hateful, harassing, or obscene language or imagery in their username or avatar, moderation will:
a) FIRST, request the hateful, harassing, or obscene language or imagery in the username or avatar be removed and instruct the user on how to do so.
b) IF adequate time passes and A is ignored by the user, OR IF the user complied initially after A but again introduces hateful, harassing, or obscene language or imagery in their username or avatar at some later date unapologetically, moderation shall issue a 14 day ban and then repeat A.
c) IF the user continues to defy moderation after the 14 day ban, moderation will issue a 60 day ban and then repeat A.
d) ALL additional infractions after C shall be met with bans according the formula y=4(x2)y=4(x2)where "y" equals ban time in months and "x" equals the number of infractions after C.

If a user promotes violence against any person or persons (barring hyperbole against public figures) or advocates in favor of terrorism and/or violent extremism, especially as related to hate groups as generally defined by the SPLC, moderation will:a) FIRST, issue a 90 day ban and request the user cease & desist such behavior.
b) IF the user again promotes violence against any person or persons (barring hyperbole against public figures) or advocates in favor of terrorism and/or violent extremism, said user will receive a permanent ban from the site.

If a user’s content includes unwarranted (or excessively toxic) systemic vulgarity and invectives, which may include off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech, moderation shall:
a) FIRST, request the user cease & desist such behavior.
b) IF adequate time passes and A is ignored by the user, OR IF the user complied initially after A but again unapologetically engages in unwarranted (or excessively toxic) systemic vulgarity and invectives, which may include off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech, moderation shall issue a 30 day ban and repeat A.
c) IF the user continues to defy moderation after the 30 day ban, moderation shall issue a 90 day ban and then repeat A.
d) ALL additional infractions after C shall be met with bans according the formula y=6(x2)y=6(x2)where "y" equals ban time in months and "x" equals the number of infractions after C.

Proposed language:

The use of racial slurs or slurs against any other protected group of any type is not allowed. If a user uses any type of slur, the moderation team will:
  • Edit the post and remove the slurs 
  • Send a warning to the user 
If a user continues to use a slur the ban will include a 30 day site ban. Continuing such conduct will result in a permanent ban. 

Depending on the severity of the statement the moderation reserves the right to jump to either a 30 day ban immediately or a permanent ban. 

A. Yes
B. No

Proposition 4: New features

What new features would you like to see on the new website? Multiple choices are permitted. If selecting multiple options please rank the order of what you want to see most strongly. 

A. Opinions 
B. Polls
C. Groups / Clubs
D. Articles
E. Podcasts 
F. Mafia ELO system
G. Add images / videos 
H. Forum signatures




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Just voting no to proposition 3 not that it matters because you are ignoring the new COC and asking this to be used for the Old COC which was already replaced by a meep. 

Also voting No on any new mod
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@David
  • I cannot be a moderator or proceed to engage with a website thst allows Holocaust denial debates to occur. This will have actual consequences for me to be associated with.
I cannot be part of it. Thus, if the debate by Wylted baiting Con to take that stance is permitted and unpunished that is to me the sign of all signs from the Lord that I don't belong here.

I live in Europe and love Europe. I will not defy the laws. That is 100% a dealbreaker. I appreciate you cleaning up the website but I cannot be a contender if you actually don't stop this.

I advise any American mod here to realise if they travel to Europe or move this is enough to permanently deport and ban them.

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Should DART bring on new moderators?
Yes, presuming there are people who are able and willing to do it (without trying to create new rules lacking community approval).

who should those moderators be?
1. Sir.Lancelot
2. Mikal

Since my name is on the list, I'll warn voters that I'm stretching my time availability a bit already. I'm focusing on building the new site as quick as I can, but my time availability is pretty unpredictable 2+ weeks in the future. Of course, if the site absolutely needs me to mod, I'll find a way to make the time.

Should the website be rebranded to a different domain name
Yes, if we lose this one.

Should the COC prohibit the use of racial slurs?
No. There are multiple reasons I don't love this policy, but I'll just focus on the main one: I don't think "protected groups" should be singled out and it's not even clear what those are. Does it mean minority groups get protection but not majority groups?

What new features would you like to see on the new website?
1. Podcasts
2. Polls
3. Mafia ELO system
4. Add images / videos
5. Articles
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@David

Proposition 1: New moderators

Part 1: Should DART bring on new moderators?

A. Yes
B. No
I vote yes.

Part 2: If yes, who should those moderators be? You can vote for more than one. If voting for more than one please rank your preferences. Here are the applications we received:
A. AdaptableRatman
FFFFFFuuuuck no. Seriously David, why is he even an option? 

B. Sir.Lancelot
Nay.

C. Mikal
#3

D. Svant
#1

E. Lemming 
#4

F. Swagnarok
#2


Proposition 3: Updating the COC 

Should the COC prohibit the use of racial slurs?
HELL NO GET THAT SHIT OUTTA HERE NIGGA

...and roll back the "hate speech" bullshit in the CoC while you're at it! A lot of users were pushing for it; you do realize that, right?

Proposition 4: New features

What new features would you like to see on the new website? Multiple choices are permitted. If selecting multiple options please rank the order of what you want to see most strongly. 

A. Opinions 
Meh. Don't care.

B. Polls
#2
C. Groups / Clubs
#1- but only if it entails group PMs (I assume it does). #3, behind "Polls" and "Forum signatures" otherwise
D. Articles
Meh. Don't care.
E. Podcasts 
Meh. Don't care.
F. Mafia ELO system
No. Any SBMM should be done privately within the mafia community.
G. Add images / videos 
Images only. #4
H. Forum signatures
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Part 1: Should DART bring on new moderators?
You need to decide it yourself.

Notice that after I got demodded, your mod actions have matched what I suggested.

While you were gone for long periods of time between your sparse debates, Whiteflsme led the site so libertarian that it became what you returned to. It is a choice.

He let the threads continue. You can realise that or not.

The users here will vote against me because they want another enabler, one who will punish only victims that fight back and barely ever the popular scum that the initiate and/or continue the cycle of abuse here (how can he do that consistently if he is one of the ones doing it?).

You want new mods, you agree with me it is you David that strives to own this site. Do not let WF and his supporters sway you. You only like recent moderation because he stopped being what he was before and that is thanks to you and I.
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1. Yes, Lemming is my first pick 

2. Yes 

3. I'll abstain from voting on this

4. Polls, podcast 


Is their any possibility of restoring the question feature ? Also will we be getting updates without refreshing? 

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I thought Sir.Lancelot was already a mod?
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Proposition 2: Should the website be rebranded to a different domain name

B. No


Proposition 3: Updating the COC 
If you will allow slurs at least add the rest of what you suggested.

If you ban slurs stop doing these leftist double standards. All racism to whites, heteros and males gets clamped down on too. Insulting the masculinity of a cis male must be as cancellable as that of a trans male, do not enable modern double standards that both wings enable but the stereotypical Leftists more so.
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@David
Part 1. Should Dart bring on new moderators? 
Yes.

Part 2: 
  1. Lemming
  2. Savant
  3. Mikal
  4. Sir.Lancelot
Part 2. Should the website rebrand its name? 
I don’t believe it’s necessary. 

Part 3. Yes, the COC should ban slurs. 

But the CoC should clarify what it considers a slur aside from the obvious ones because some are divided about whether a word is a slur or not


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If we can't even be racist towards whites I am definitely done here. That's just taking this to comic levels of absurdity
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Part 1: Should DART bring on new moderators?
Pass.
Owners and current Mods would know more than I if such are needed.
Part 2: If yes
B. Sir.Lancelot
D. Savant


Proposition 2: Should the website be rebranded to a different domain name
B. No
The name is fine as is.

Proposition 3: Updating the COC 
Should the COC prohibit the use of racial slurs?
A. Yes.

Though, I don't think it's a yes or no answer.
'What is offensive in a 'large 'gray line that 'fades towards it's edges.

Hitler, Osama, Jefferson,  should not be banned as profile pictures.
The American Flag, The Nazi Flag, The Confederate Flag, should not be banned as profile pictures.
Even famous serial killers, should not be banned as profile pictures.

'How one talks about a subject, even their support of it, changes the context.
A spoon or a knife, doesn't matter as 'much as how a person 'uses said spoon or knife.
A spoon can dig out eyeballs easily enough,
And a knife used on wood not flesh, doesn't 'do any harm to a person.

Nudity, some curse words, slurs, offensive hate speech stereotypes, excessive gore, should be banned profile pictures.

Bullying and slur and obscenity filled harangues of individuals and groups should be moderated in the forums. Warnings and then bans.

Old one just needs be viewed as guidelines, and applied with tact and restraint.

Proposition 4: New features
I am comfortable with the site features as they are currently. Simple and effective.
Though I can understand and maybe get used to some features that others may want.

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Why should Jefferson be a banned profile pic? I am curious how you see it.
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Well, he was a slave owner, also some actions against Native Americans.
I 'don't think he should be banned though.
I think similar logic that would ban Hitler, could ban Thomas Jefferson,
Thus I am against banning profile pictures for supposedly offensive people.
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Proposition 2: Should the website be rebranded to a different domain name

A. Yes
B. No
No.
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See, both wings enable the double standard that the modern Right pretends only the Left makes.
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@Lemming
He also helped end the slave trade, would you ban all figures that owned slaves then?
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I henceforth change my vote on Lemming to "nay."
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Proposition 1: New moderators

Part 1: Should DART bring on new moderators?

A. Yes
B. No

No

Part 2: If yes, who should those moderators be? You can vote for more than one. If voting for more than one please rank your preferences. Here are the applications we received:

A. AdaptableRatman
B. Sir.Lancelot
C. Mikal
D. Savant
E. Lemming 
F. Swagnarok
C, D

Proposition 2: Should the website be rebranded to a different domain name

A. Yes
B. No
B


Proposition 3: Updating the COC 

Should the COC prohibit the use of racial slurs?
A. Yes
B. No
B

Proposition 4: New features

What new features would you like to see on the new website? Multiple choices are permitted. If selecting multiple options please rank the order of what you want to see most strongly. 

A. Opinions 
B. Polls
C. Groups / Clubs
D. Articles
E. Podcasts 
F. Mafia ELO system
G. Add images / videos 
H. Forum signatures

1. F
2. G
3. H

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It's not sarcasm, no.
'I would not ban all slave owners, as profile pictures, no.
Also updated my #14 post.



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@David
1. 

Yes.

1. Myself
2. Lemming
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Mod vote

C. Mikal
D. Savant
F. Swagnarok
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@David
Advocacy in favor of terrorism and/or violent extremism, especially as related to hate groups as generally defined by the SPLC, is likewise prohibited.
For clarification purposes:

1. Should this clause be taken to mean "hate group as the general term is defined by the SPLC", or "organizations that the SPLC considers hate groups", which includes mainstream conservative Christian organizations (e.g. the American Family Association or the Alliance Defending Freedom)?

2. If the former, then what is the Southern Poverty Law Center's definition of a hate group?


Honestly it's troubling to see any part of this site's Code of Conduct tied to an organization that blatantly takes sides (and only one side) in the modern US culture war. They shouldn't be regarded as neutral experts because they aren't.
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@Lemming
I voted you assuming you will conform if a mod in charge of you tells you to accept profile pics are bannable.

I cannot be on a website that has hitler pics and engages in Holocaust denial.

It is legal jeopardy. It is essential you rethink your position once in power. I know you are resistant to peer pressure but consider that you also need to respect laws of Europe and its history if you want users from there to safely use the site 
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Please please rerun question 3 where you let people defending slur use agree to ban the other stuff mentioned.

It is essential the stuff below that is not allowed. Id accept banning slurs too.
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Also David I requested that a word filter be applied to the site as a nice way to simultaneously eliminate slurs while keeping a big boundary around initiatives that could harm free speech. 

So if your vote fails than add a word filter and never ever try to push that retarded shit again
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Reminder: This thread is for voting only. No further discussions. 
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Proposition 1

Part 1: Yes
Part 2: Savant

Proposition 2
Yes

Proposition 3
No

Proposition 4
Polls, Forum Signatures
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Prop 1: Yes. Moderating is a drain, better on all of you poor bastards to spread the load. Lemming would be a good even-keeled mod.

Prop 2: Yes

Prop 3: Yes

Prop 4: 
  • G. Add images, videos
  • H. Forum signatures
  • C. Groups/clubs

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Proposition 1: New moderators

Part 1: Should DART bring on new moderators?

A. Yes
B. No
Yes

Part 2: If yes, who should those moderators be? You can vote for more than one. If voting for more than one please rank your preferences. Here are the applications we received:
1) Savant
2) Mikal
3) Swagnorak

A. AdaptableRatman
B. Sir.Lancelot
C. Mikal
D. Savant
E. Lemming 
F. Swagnarok

All moderators are subject to a 30-day trial period before being given full moderator powers. 

Note: If I missed anyone please DM me. 

Proposition 2: Should the website be rebranded to a different domain name

A. Yes
B. No
No

If yes wins there will be a separate MEEPs and discussion on what that new name will be. As of now we have only 13 days left until the website domain expires. The last message I received from Mike was on 6//11/2025. We are working on creating a backup community in the event that the website is shut down. Please standby for additional announcements. 

Proposition 3: Updating the COC 

Should the COC prohibit the use of racial slurs?

A. Yes
B. No
Hell no

Proposition 4: New features

What new features would you like to see on the new website? Multiple choices are permitted. If selecting multiple options please rank the order of what you want to see most strongly.

A. Opinions
B. Polls
C. Groups / Clubs
D. Articles
E. Podcasts
F. Mafia ELO system
G. Add images / videos
H. Forum signatures
1) Mafia ELO
2) Groups
3) Polls
4) Opinions