Terraria Mafia #1 - DP1

Author: Mharman

Posts

Read-only
Total: 923
Casey_Risk
Casey_Risk's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 2,155
3
5
8
Casey_Risk's avatar
Casey_Risk
3
5
8
-->
@WyIted
For obvious scum slip the rest of you all missed
Care to elaborate? 
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 42
Posts: 9,115
4
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
4
4
9
-->
@Mikal
Why am ai town for not jumping on supas lynch? 

It implies she knows supa is town? Obviously if he was scum and I was scum I might have reason to heaitate
Casey_Risk
Casey_Risk's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 2,155
3
5
8
Casey_Risk's avatar
Casey_Risk
3
5
8
-->
@WyIted
It implies she knows supa is town? Obviously if he was scum and I was scum I might have reason to heaitate 
Maybe, but I think you as scum would have gone for the bus anyway. It'd fit with your style.
JoeBob
JoeBob's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,745
3
3
7
JoeBob's avatar
JoeBob
3
3
7
Well for starters, I think that there is likely a scum between Savant and Vader. The fact that Savant CC’ed him, along with the points others have made about there unlikely being two vanilla. I also find Savants activity unusual, but he is working on the new site after all.
I put lunatic as lean scum. With all that was said before about him, I don’t think I’ll need to repeat myself.
Mikal/Castin is lock town, for obvious reasons.
Most others are null. I barely remember my behavior reads on anyone from when I last played, and those who have claimed already seem to check out.
There are some exceptions though
I put iron as tilt/lean(whatever is closer to null). Reason for this is as the fact that one of the abilities doesn’t match a pressure plate. If this was on purpose I’ll retract my thoughts on him.

This is all I can think of at the moment. If I get anything else I’ll post it.
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 8,107
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
Vote Count

Vader (4/8) - Mikal/Castin, Lunatic, Savant, Pie
Casey (4/8) - Casey, Ultra, Wylted
Lunatic (1/8) - Vader
Cerulean (1/8) - Resurget
VTNL (1/8) - Irontoaster
Joebob (1/8) - Cerulean
Mikal (1/8) Banana

Not Voting (2) Whiteflame, Joebob

An old classic right here.
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@JoeBob
The fact that Savant CC’ed him, along with the points others have made about there unlikely being two vanilla.
I’d like to understand this: you think a scum Savant would CC a Vanilla role? I find that very difficult to believe, especially since this would be far from the first game with two vanilla players and it’s significantly larger than most other games. Just seems like a very odd move to CC someone with a fake Vanilla claim.
Casey_Risk
Casey_Risk's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 2,155
3
5
8
Casey_Risk's avatar
Casey_Risk
3
5
8
-->
@JoeBob
Well for starters, I think that there is likely a scum between Savant and Vader. The fact that Savant CC’ed him, along with the points others have made about there unlikely being two vanilla. I also find Savants activity unusual, but he is working on the new site after all.
Why do you think there's only one vanilla at most? Put it in your own words.
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@WyIted
Don’t really get the decision to try to hide your double voter while voting, but that’s not how I think you’d play it as scum (seems like a weird way to give away your role regardless, but given the advantage it affords you as scum, it’s particularly confusing in that instance), so you’re in my town pile.
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 8,107
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
Time Check: 20 hours remaining
WyIted
WyIted's avatar
Debates: 42
Posts: 9,115
4
4
9
WyIted's avatar
WyIted
4
4
9
-->
@whiteflame
My vote counts for double. I was going to keep it in the bag a while but it's probably easy to figure out when every person invite for has an extra vote. I still thought people would just assume a hidden voter for a while and leave me alone lol
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@WyIted
Certainly a choice, but I’m townreading it.
JoeBob
JoeBob's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 1,745
3
3
7
JoeBob's avatar
JoeBob
3
3
7
-->
@whiteflame
@Casey_Risk
Why do you think there's only one vanilla at most? Put it in your own words.
I would like to retract what I said before as it was on the fly.
Now that I thought about it better, I checked mharmans past 6 ish games and it was around 2 games that has two vanilla, 1 game that had one, and 3 games that had three. 
Using this alone, I feel like it would be more likely that their was either one vanilla or another vanilla  that has yet to claim, and I find the three vanilla option more likely.
you think a scum Savant would CC a Vanilla role?
I find it odd that Savant CC Vader in the first place. Unless he thought that there was only one vanilla, like you said in this large of a game, which I find weird.
Unless he later explained it and I missed it.
Casey_Risk
Casey_Risk's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 2,155
3
5
8
Casey_Risk's avatar
Casey_Risk
3
5
8
-->
@JoeBob
I find it odd that Savant CC Vader in the first place. Unless he thought that there was only one vanilla, like you said in this large of a game, which I find weird.
Unless he later explained it and I missed it.
He did explain already that he thought at first that there would probably only be one vanilla in this game, before realizing that there likely would be more than one.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 17,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Casey_Risk
See my post #661. 
That doesn’t address my problem imo.

Mikal explicitly gave the example with the axe. It’s literally verbatim. His own PM contradicts the whole tier thing. Not to mention him asking Mharman something that was explicitly written in his PM.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 17,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@WyIted
Why am ai town for not jumping on supas lynch? 

It implies she knows supa is town? Obviously if he was scum and I was scum I might have reason to hesitate
Honestly, you’re right. And I buy your claim. It makes sense from a balance POV especially if it’s a 10-3-1 game.


ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 17,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Casey_Risk
Maybe, but I think you as scum would have gone for the bus anyway. It'd fit with your style.
How so?
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 17,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
JoeBob reeks town
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 17,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
Town Pile:
Pie
Mikal/Castin
Wylted
Savant
JoeBob

Tilt Town:
REF
IronToaster

Null:
Cerulean
Ultra
Whiteflame
Banana

Tilt Scum:
Lunatic
Casey

Scum:
Vader

ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 17,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
1. Lunatic - Loom - Strengthener (Soft: Crafting Station)
2. Mikal/Castin - Item Category
3. Ultra - Consumable Item
4. Whiteflame - Critter
5. Pie - NPC
6. Resurget - Tiered NPC
7. Casey - Individual Item
8. Savant - Vulture - Vanilla (Soft: NPC)
9. Vader - Shortsword - Vanilla (Soft: Item)
10. Irontoaster - Pressure Plate - JOAT: 3x Cop, 1x Poisoner, 1x Bomb (No Soft)
11. Joebob - Vital Item
12. Wylted - Chest - Doublevoter
13. Banana - Consumable Item
14. Cerulean - Item Spawned Naturally

ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 17,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Castin
^^^^
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 17,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
Actually I just realized something, but I need to ask Mharman first. Depending on the answer it will move someone in my list
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Mikal
Unvote 

For Mikal. Revolt after Mharman 
So... Vader did post, and this is what he posted. Mikal, do you know what this is about? Is this about the mod confirmation and has he just given up or is that just me?
Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 15,922
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
-->
@Mharman
I unvoted

Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 15,922
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
-->
@whiteflame
Meant revoting. Mikal asked me to unvote so I did
Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 15,922
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
I was just in my car driving and autocorrected
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Vader
Meant revoting. Mikal asked me to unvote so I did
That makes more sense. I had no context for a revolt. Anyway, looking for some responses dude. Pie's made a pretty convincing case that you've contradicted yourself.

Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 15,922
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
-->
@whiteflame
Like I said my story is very clear

My item was listed as Short Sword, which is why I thought it was maybe a variation. I realized it wasn’t by looking at the item when I googled it and the wiki came up as one word which I why I said item. I was referencing my PM the whole time and literally had 0 clue it’s a category

I can’t do anything about it. It’s a matter of unconfirmability. I asked the mod and he gave me a direct response versus Mikal and according to Mikal he said they can give completely different responses. I don’t know how we even have a case at this point because it’s clear as day there is some form of miscommunication from a mod perspective that I literally have no control over. I’ve already accepted I’m going to be mislynches but going back and forth with the same point with Pie, someone who I all in honestly scum read does 0% for the town
Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 15,922
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
It’s literally just a way to distract from actually trying to look for scum since he continuously brings it up and allows mafia to hide. 
whiteflame
whiteflame's avatar
Debates: 27
Posts: 6,549
4
6
10
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
4
6
10
-->
@Vader

This is the post I'm referring to, and it doesn't involve whether you should have heard anything from Mharman or not. I'd like to know what changed between these two posts, and why you initially didn't think there were tiers to the item considering a tier is literally mentioned in the justification you gave.
Mikal
Mikal's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 2,513
3
3
6
Mikal's avatar
Mikal
3
3
6
-->
@whiteflame
No I asked him to vote to test the dbl vote