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@TheRealNihilist
Please click 'block user' on polytheist's profile as an immediate solution to the problem. We cannot negotiate with her, that is clear, so I am asking you to be the mature one.
What does block do?Please click 'block user' on polytheist's profile as an immediate solution to the problem. We cannot negotiate with her, that is clear, so I am asking you to be the mature one.
I'll pass. Not worth it and I am not that annoyed about it when she can only come up with "sock puppet"There's no 'don't see what they write' kind of ignore here and users actually were happy about that. You are able to see the others' posts, report them etc but you are unable to be @'d by them via the 'receivers' box and also can't be PM'd by them.
Do not threaten her with mod action, you will get things backfiring onto you.
It comes under threat and abuse. I know, its absolutely ridiculous. Telling someone you will report them or even telling your abuser that you have reported them comes under threats and abuse.This is what I have received and it stays with you it is never scrubbed after a time.
ok, given notorious verses such as 2:191"And kill them wherever you overtake them"and 5:51"Do not take the Jews and the Christians friends"Shouldn't you be out there killing Christians rather than being friendly with them?- Who says I'm not already doing that... LOL! Seriously, I know. It's getting really old though. It's just baffling to me how they can quote that verse & say it incites violence against [insert whomever] with a straight face, as if they don't know that self defense is!! Of course, by conveniently omitting the whole context & the inconvenient bits, like when you read a classified document with all the blackouts... They see "kill them wherever you overtake them"... & not "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you"..."but do not transgress'..."Allah does not like transgressors"..."... they have expelled you* ..."And do not fight them at the Holy Mosque until they fight you there"...'if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors"...etc.- As for the second verse, it's another interesting twist. The Salafis LOVE that, of course when it suits them. Thank God they aren't big on that mantra since Trump, now they are buddy-buddies. The classical schools, however, agree that befriending or loving non-Muslims is only prohibited in matters of religion, as the verses specify. That is, to befriend them or love them for their religion or to support their religion or support them against Muslims: "Allah does not forbid youfrom those who do not fight you because of religionand do not expel you from your homes - from acting kindly and justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. Allah only forbids youfrom those who fight you because of religion andexpel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers". (60:8-9), Obviously a Muslim can not support a non-Muslim to transgress against other Muslims, that's treason. The Prophet (pbuh) had a lot of non-Muslim friends whom he loved, particularly his uncle, his son-in-law, his Jewish neighbor... & a lot of allies among them too, the Christian Abyssinians, the Copts of Egypt, most Jewish tribes of Medina (except the three that betrayed him).,,etc! The whole notion is patently absurd.
Monotheism has intolerance built-in; if there is one god all others gods and their associated reigions are false.The problem with Islam is the same as for any faith based beliefs.
Monotheism has intolerance built-in;
Lk 19:27 "But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.’”
you only asked for something 'even resembling'!
So, suddenly proper consideration of context is vital.
You do blow up easily!
My point is that even without explicit scripture Christianity - or Christians - have been violently intolerant towards non-christians and heretical christians.
So I am going to take it you do not have any New Testament verses resembling those (quranic verses)
Is there some reason we are eliminating the old testament from consideration?
Is it not used as part of some Christians moral foundation?
Some christians point to the old testament to justify their moral standards
and therefore the old testament is a potential justification for christian behavior even if this does not apply to all christians.
So again there some reason we are eliminating the old testament from consideration? Is it not used as part of some christians moral foundation?
It doesn't apply to any christians in truth.
the thread is a "Debate" of Islam,
Would you say conservative interpretations of islam have gained in influence over the last few decades?
What can you tell me about Islam during the period of 800 AD to 1100 AD?
Can you prove the existence of your God?That is really the only question that needs answering.
What is the prescribed penalty for apostasy?
The problem with Islam is the same as for any faith based beliefs. The way you personally interpret the quran does not prevent others from interpreting it in a way that does seem to suggest that violence is more or less compulsory.
I'm not arguing that Islam cannot have utility in creating a functional society or that it is not a positive force in your life. What I am arguing is that just like christianity and Judaism before it and indeed all faith based beliefs is that since no evidence is required for belief that persecuting the (heretic/non-believer/infedel/illegal alien) can be believed to be for the greater good with no evidence that this is so.
Monotheism has intolerance built-in; if there is one god all others gods and their associated reigions are false.
Such as? Religion does not have the monopoly on morals. I do not have to believe in a god, or be religious or have read the New or Old Testaments to be a good person with morals.The christian "foundation" as you put it, is the new covenant and has nothing to do with the ancient Hebrew OT and their god. Even Jews don't read the OT never mind take any laws or moral guidance from it. Do you not believe that people had laws and morals before Moses decided to write down the commandments? This was the new covenant of his time. It may as well be obsolete. Islam on the other hand has undergone not a single change in all of its 1400 + years since Muhammad had his so called "revelation".