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you made O.P. and topic neither of which had anything to do with his change my mind videos, in fact you specifically gave time points of a video which is very specific and again had nothing and no mention of the change my mind videos.
You asked for my specific dislike for him. I mainly pointed something else I will add to the list. I wasn't here when he started those videos so I couldn't post them when they were new. They are still relevant but old news compared to this.
So you've gone from be offended by a sexist joke he made and wanted everyone to watch to now bring up his change my mind which he has done on many different topics.  Pivot, change direction from the original post/topic of his sexist joke (a specific thing) to a general vague criticism/attack on his various change my mind videos.
Who was asking about what I thought about someone not relevant to the topic at hand? You said:
What about the guy on Saturday night live that made fun of the congressman who lost an eye in combat?
You pivoted and I brought in extra-information to debunk your pivot. Stop pivoting then you won't be annoyed. Okay? If you don't think this is a pivot then you don't know what you are talking about. Instead of calling it pivot call it whataboutism.
and again you won't denounce making fun of liberal tv making fun of a veteran wounded in combat with a permanent disability.
The guy is far-right figure and won't denounce for a comedy skits doing what they do. People don't go on SNL for the latest breaking news they go for the comedy. Steven Crowder is a political commenter when he spends most of his time talking about the news instead of making jokes.
This is what hypocrisy is, you've shown a great example of it.
No you are the hypocrite and you can't even admit it when I called you out. You make excuses for Steven Crowder but not for SNL when they were making a joke. It is called the special pleading fallacy when you have different standards for different people. 
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To be fair, the left generally hates everyone.
To be unfair you would say that. Have any evidence for such a claim? 

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Because Nobody on the right has a basket of deplorables.
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Because Nobody on the right has a basket of deplorables.
I know where you stand and what you tolerate or might be apart of. The right is filled with white nationalists but you stand by them. I would consider them deplorables but you don't.
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You asked for my specific dislike for him.
where did I ask you any such thing?

Who was asking about what I thought about someone not relevant to the topic at hand?

you took issue with a comedian making a sexist joke which bothered you enough to start a topic about, I wanted to know if a liberal tv show that has been on since the 70s making fun of a wounded war veteran who lost an eye and had other injuries was on par or how you felt about it since you never bothered to make a thread about that happening and you still haven't said it was horrible or denounced it in anyway after what 2 or 3 times of me bringing it up?    rather hypocritical of you.

The guy is far-right figure and won't denounce for a comedy skits doing what they do. People don't go on SNL for the latest breaking news they go for the comedy. Steven Crowder is a political commenter when he spends most of his time talking about the news instead of making jokes.
far-right what a meaning less label, he calls himself a comedian and identifies as one,  how many political commentators post video drinking games?  which was what they were doing in that video.
People watch SNL and Crowder for the same reasons, entertainment.

No you are the hypocrite and you can't even admit it when I called you out. You make excuses for Steven Crowder but not for SNL when they were making a joke. It is called the special pleading fallacy when you have different standards for different people. 
I'm not making an excuse, I interpreted it as a joke given all the women, gays, trans etc he's interview in the past.  But if you want to equate what he said to making jokes about wounded, disabled vets as being the same thing, we obviously have vastly different moral compasses.




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oh those peaceful, tolerant liberals, with their rioting, death threats, assaults, harassing and shouting out people trying to talk, so tolerant.  How many liberal speakers have had their gigs canceled because of conservative protesters?  I'm thinking of a number, one hint, it's < or possibly = to 1.

sure seems like trying to paint Crowder as some kind of influential political commentator is a good way to try and censor his speech, but the left wouldn't do that now would they.....
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The difference between the left and the right is the basket. People on the right don't use baskets, or anything remotely resembling identity politics or intersectionality.

This is why basket of deplorables defines the culture of grouphate among the left and otherism hate. You can't simply say some people are good and some are bad. It's all or nothing.

This is also why people on the left cannot condemn the 7% radicalized Muslims in the world, or Hamas in Palestine, because they are all in one big basket according to the left, and that basket must be labeled "good"

So when someone like Trump comes along and says "some of them are good people" it's like nails on a chalkboard to a leftist used to dealing with baskets of deplorables and baskets of victims.

If you're in a political party that practices identity hate, then that's a culture I would never want to be a part of. I can disagree with individual people without creating hatebaskets.
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where did I ask you any such thing?
You said this:
What about the guy on Saturday night live that made fun of the congressman who lost an eye in combat?
Which required me to respond. I needed to go into detail to say why SNL are allowed to do what they do and Steven Crowder is not. If I didn't then my position wouldn't be consistent. You aren't consistent when you can't take a joke when the left says but can when a right-winger says it.
you took issue with a comedian making a sexist joke which bothered you enough to start a topic about, I wanted to know if a liberal tv show that has been on since the 70s making fun of a wounded war veteran who lost an eye and had other injuries was on par or how you felt about it since you never bothered to make a thread about that happening and you still haven't said it was horrible or denounced it in anyway after what 2 or 3 times of me bringing it up?    rather hypocritical of you.
Why would I denounce a comedy for being comedy? They don't state something they are not. They make their intentions clear whereas Steven Crowder is a "comedian" which is definitely not true when he spends most of his time being a political commentator. 
far-right what a meaning less label, he calls himself a comedian and identifies as one,  how many political commentators post video drinking games?  which was what they were doing in that video.
People watch SNL and Crowder for the same reasons, entertainment.
I meant Crenshaw. Steven can be but he is not impacting laws like Crenshaw. Watch a Crowder video and tell me how much of the time was spent joking and actually commenting on politics. I'll do it for you with his most recent videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM_hGgwLIZE  REBUTTAL: Why 'REPARATIONS' Will NEVER Happen... | Louder With Crowder
You don't rebut jokes. You rebut arguments so his most recent video is him political commenting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg8NqTldP0k RANT: Bernie Sanders Wants BOSTON BOMBER’S Vote?! | Louder With Crowder
Isn't a comedian meant to tell jokes instead of ranting about something?

I never heard of a comedian having 3 hours worth of material to insult a CNN TOWN HALL with Elizabeth Warren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_Zk9qK8O-w DEBUNKED: TOP 5 Socialism Lies! | Louder With Crowder
Is he debunking jokes? No he isn't he is debunking political systems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq2Oe_p3l8Y #468 MEDIA MUELLER MELTDOWN! | Adam Carolla Guests | Louder With Crowder
Covering the Mueller report and interviewing guests? 

His 5 most recent videos is political commentating not being a comedian so you can't use that defence.

I'm not making an excuse, I interpreted it as a joke given all the women, gays, trans etc he's interview in the past.  But if you want to equate what he said to making jokes about wounded, disabled vets as being the same thing, we obviously have vastly different moral compasses.
You believe in hate speech? Wow you pretty much admitted to it by saying no joking about a veteran is not allowed therefore you and other right-wingers will force the hand of a comedian to apologise. Who is for free speech again?

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The difference between the left and the right is the basket. People on the right don't use baskets, or anything remotely resembling identity politics or intersectionality.

This is why basket of deplorables defines the culture of grouphate among the left and otherism hate. You can't simply say some people are good and some are bad. It's all or nothing.
I don't know what you are taking about with "baskets" but if it is identity politics and intersectionality then what do you call this?
"We need to start thinking about how we can make our grade schools more boy friendly"

What is wrong with saying there is more than one problem? If you don't disagree with this then you don't disagree with intersectionality.
Intersectionality, also referred to as intersectional feminism, is a branch of feminism which identifies how different aspects of social and political discrimination overlap with gender
This is also why people on the left cannot condemn the 7% radicalized Muslims in the world, or Hamas in Palestine, because they are all in one big basket according to the left, and that basket must be labeled "good"
 Evidence?
So when someone like Trump comes along and says "some of them are good people" it's like nails on a chalkboard to a leftist used to dealing with baskets of deplorables and baskets of victims.
Since you agree with Trump then you agree that there were some fine people in the far-right. 
If you're in a political party that practices identity hate, then that's a culture I would never want to be a part of. I can disagree with individual people without creating hatebaskets.
Evidence?
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I'm far right, and Steven Crowder, Candace Owens, and Ben Shapiro radicalized me. These hateful extremists are far too violent and malicious even for me; I disavow them all.
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You criticize Crowder for a sexist joke then I ask you to do the same to SNL for what they did but you won't because you've labeled Crowder a political commentator instead of a comedian, even a political comedian, as if being one or the other makes any difference.  You won't citizen SNL because they are a comedy even though everyone would agree what they said was far more egregious.  The selective moral outrage you show is very sad, you are blinded by your ideology.
Yes I find what SNL had said and done far more offensive than Crowder's statement, but not once did I ever say they didn't have the right to say it.  Do all leftist distort the truth and lie or just you?
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and again you won't denounce making fun of liberal tv making fun of a veteran wounded in combat with a permanent disability.
This is what hypocrisy is, you've shown a great example of it.
What happened to it's just a joke?


Just relax and don't take 
this stuff so seriously, it will make you happier.  WSS?

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You criticize Crowder for a sexist joke then I ask you to do the same to SNL for what they did but you won't because you've labeled Crowder a political commentator instead of a comedian
Because he is. He is not a comedian. If he was he wouldn't dedicated the majority of his time political commentating.
even a political comedian, as if being one or the other makes any difference.
Crenshaw can pass laws. Steven can spread false information. One is worse than the other. Do I need to say more?
You won't citizen SNL because they are a comedy even though everyone would agree what they said was far more egregious.  The selective moral outrage you show is very sad, you are blinded by your ideology.
Have you heard yourself? You are crying over a joke. Grow up and stop crying for someone else. 
Yes I find what SNL had said and done far more offensive than Crowder's statement, but not once did I ever say they didn't have the right to say it.
So you are for speech for consequence not for freedom of speech?
Do all leftist distort the truth and lie or just you?
Hypocritical coming from a liar and a party which put feelings over facts. 
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I'm far right, and Steven Crowder, Candace Owens, and Ben Shapiro radicalized me. These hateful extremists are far too violent and malicious even for me; I disavow them all.
Then where are you? Centre right or far right? 

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Have you heard yourself? You are crying over a joke. Grow up and stop crying for someone else. 

so says the one who started the thread LOL 

Crenshaw can pass laws. Steven can spread false information. One is worse than the other. Do I need to say more?
more selective moral outrage

So you are for speech for consequence not for freedom of speech?
wow, you don't think speech has consequences even if it's protected as free speech?  what planet do you live on exactly?

Hypocritical coming from a liar and a party which put feelings over facts. 

you are so confused I can't possibly untangle your mixed up thoughts.
the Left thinks there's such a thing as hate speech because it makes people feel bad etc
you earn a quote

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I don't have time to decode your autism. Either start making sense or do not post at all."


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What happened to it's just a joke?
you'll have to ask the person who started the thread that was angered enough by a comedian to start this.

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so says the one who started the thread LOL 
I started to show Steven Crowder's true self. I wasn't crying about a whataboustim.
more selective moral outrage
More you don't know what you are talking about. Steven Crowder doesn't directly impact laws but Crenshaw does.
wow, you don't think speech has consequences even if it's protected as free speech?  what planet do you live on exactly?
Oh so you don't believe in free speech. Okay. You and other conservatives should drop that and actually not lie to the people who they are talking to. 
you are so confused I can't possibly untangle your mixed up thoughts.
the Left thinks there's such a thing as hate speech because it makes people feel bad etc
you earn a quote

"KingLaddy01
I don't have time to decode your autism. Either start making sense or do not post at all." 
The right are irrational at best while at worst bad faith actors.
You also deserve a quote from yourself

"What about the guy on Saturday night live that made fun of the congressman who lost an eye in combat?  What do you think about that?"

you'll have to ask the person who started the thread that was angered enough by a comedian to start this.
I don't take the stance it is just a joke you do. 
You said:
"You see grown ups do make jokes like that, joke as in they don't really mean what they are saying."

You have made the claim that he didn't actually mean what he said and said grown ups actually are sexist. 
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More you don't know what you are talking about. Steven Crowder doesn't directly impact laws but Crenshaw does.
what does that have to do with anything?

Oh so you don't believe in free speech. Okay.
trying to keep up the lie still?  try harder

"You see grown ups do make jokes like that, joke as in they don't really mean what they are saying."

You have made the claim that he didn't actually mean what he said and said grown ups actually are sexist. 
keep trying to twist the truth and maintain your lies.

perhaps you are not familiar with the different types and labels for humor "off color" "dark" "sarcastic" just to name a few and yes adults to say things they don't really mean as a joke to elicit a reaction or over exaggerate a point.  When you become an adult perhaps you'll understand this type of societal interaction and expression.

Focus more and keeping the b.s. in your mouth instead of spewing it on the screen.


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what does that have to do with anything?
More context.
trying to keep up the lie still?  try harder
It must be a conservative thing where they think everyone is a liar because they are one. Don't worry I am honest about my positions. I don't think you can do the same.
keep trying to twist the truth and maintain your lies.

perhaps you are not familiar with the different types and labels for humor "off color" "dark" "sarcastic" just to name a few and yes adults to say things they don't really mean as a joke to elicit a reaction or over exaggerate a point.  When you become an adult perhaps you'll understand this type of societal interaction and expression.

Focus more and keeping the b.s. in your mouth instead of spewing it on the screen.
If it is "b.s" why are you still for me to spew it on? Guess you must really like "b.s.".
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your comprehension is like grade school level, I think that's where the problem is

If it is "b.s" why are you still for me to spew it on? Guess you must really like "b.s.".
what I wrote was "keeping the b.s. in your mouth instead of spewing it on the screen."

you accused me of things that are not true, hence you are a liar, I didn't make you say those false accusations you did that all yourself as children often do.

Let's say you are in school sitting at your desk with all your little friends and you start yelling profanities.  While that is free speech do you think there would be consequences for doing so?  As I said there are consequences even for protected speech which does not mean I "don't believe in free speech" as you wrongfully claimed aka lied about.

It must be a conservative thing where they think everyone is a liar because they are one.
that's not true, you so far are the only proven liar.  but you always have the opportunity to correct yourself.

you have yet to explain what you mean by Crowder showing his true self, what actions lead you believe he portrays himself one way but is really something else?
do try to explain if you can.
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Sorry to tell you but that was your claim, can't you read? Woops you are confused by the tripe you write. As you were numpty.
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since there's no quote I have no idea what you are talking about
are you 2 in the same grade?
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your comprehension is like grade school level, I think that's where the problem is
Am I supposed to say rebut this as if you don't stand behind liars? 
what I wrote was "keeping the b.s. in your mouth instead of spewing it on the screen."
Why are you still here? If you don't want me "spewing" get lost or maybe a conservative can't stop being a hypocrite.
you accused me of things that are not true, hence you are a liar, I didn't make you say those false accusations you did that all yourself as children often do.
They are true.
Let's say you are in school sitting at your desk with all your little friends and you start yelling profanities.  While that is free speech do you think there would be consequences for doing so?  As I said there are consequences even for protected speech which does not mean I "don't believe in free speech" as you wrongfully claimed aka lied about.
Protected speech is a contradiction to free speech and if you don't understand that. You really need help.
that's not true, you so far are the only proven liar.  but you always have the opportunity to correct yourself.
You are the liar in this conversation. Are you going to say sorry but not actually mean it? Go right ahead.
you have yet to explain what you mean by Crowder showing his true self, what actions lead you believe he portrays himself one way but is really something else?
do try to explain if you can.
Crowder I am sure holds the position he is for equal rights but when it comes to people he dislikes he resorts to what he actually thinks which is no one cares about your opinion because you are women. 
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fine, we'll list your lies

You believe in hate speech? Wow you pretty much admitted to it by saying no joking about a veteran is not allowed therefore you and other right-wingers will force the hand of a comedian to apologise. Who is for free speech again?

lie, where did I ever, ever use the term hate speech or that joking about a veteran is not allowed?  You can't quote it because your statement is a lie.


So you are for speech for consequence not for freedom of speech?
lie, I've explained there can be consequences for speech even if it's protected by the B.O.R.s how you don't know this is mind boggling,  for further explanation raise your little hand and ask your teacher.


Oh so you don't believe in free speech. Okay. 

lie, again nothing you can quote hence just another baseless lie

You have made the claim that he didn't actually mean what he said and said grown ups actually are sexist
lie, I said grown ups (some since you'd just going to be pedantic) make or have made sexist jokes and or comments.

If it is "b.s" why are you still for me to spew it on? Guess you must really like "b.s.".
what I wrote was "keeping the b.s. in your mouth instead of spewing it on the screen."


Protected speech is a contradiction to free speech and if you don't understand that. You really need help.
if free speech isn't protected then it can't be free, speech is protected by the 1a, you are very confused.


I started to show Steven Crowder's true self. I wasn't crying about a whataboustim.
so one joke labels him as not believing in equal rights?
ah so this is some kind of personal attack on Crowder, now it makes sense.

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Then where are you? Centre right or far right? 

I may want to send the world back to the Middle Ages, but I'm no racist. The things that Crowder used to say about people of color in his older, deleted videos chill me to the core. And we all know what sort of atrocities Candace Owens can inspire, and how much she admires genocidal maniacs like Hitler. And Shapiro wrote this genocidal screed: https://www.creators.com/read/ben-shapiro/06/07/the-radical-evil-of-the-palestinian-arab-population. I just want to hang bankers and go back to the Latin Mass =(


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I just want to hang bankers and go back to the Latin Mass =(
So a right-wing populist? Trump is not one by the way.


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lie, where did I ever, ever use the term hate speech or that joking about a veteran is not allowed?  You can't quote it because your statement is a lie.
Here was my reasoning and quoted when I made the response:
But if you want to equate what he said to making jokes about wounded, disabled vets as being the same thing, we obviously have vastly different moral compasses.
They are both jokes but since you consider one worse than the other. You consider it hate speech.
lie, I've explained there can be consequences for speech even if it's protected by the B.O.R.s how you don't know this is mind boggling,  for further explanation raise your little hand and ask your teacher.
You said:
Yes I find what SNL had said and done far more offensive than Crowder's statement, but not once did I ever say they didn't have the right to say it.
Another point that you consider what SNL did was hate speech. Freedom of speech is this: is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. 
Do you agree with this or are you not a free speech absolutist?
lie, again nothing you can quote hence just another baseless lie
I quoted this when I made the response:
wow, you don't think speech has consequences even if it's protected as free speech?  what planet do you live on exactly?
My position isn't that I don't think speech has consequence but you think a joke is a joke but hypocritical when it comes to people you dislike. I'll quote and make sure you see it this time.
You see grown ups do make jokes like that, joke as in they don't really mean what they are saying.
You said:
lie, I said grown ups (some since you'd just going to be pedantic) make or have made sexist jokes and or comments.
How is my fault that you didn't quantify how many grown-ups you meant? That fault is on you.
what I wrote was "keeping the b.s. in your mouth instead of spewing it on the screen."
You call it b.s because you disagree with it and you tell me something I won't do. What are you going to do about something that you disagree with and can't stop me doing? Stay here and allow me to spew "b.s" at you?
if free speech isn't protected then it can't be free, speech is protected by the 1a, you are very confused.
Who is protecting this speech and how is control somehow freedom again?
so one joke labels him as not believing in equal rights?
ah so this is some kind of personal attack on Crowder, now it makes sense.
Personal attack? I didn't insult him instead stated what he is. Not for equal rights only for maintaining rights with people he already agrees with. 
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But if you want to equate what he said to making jokes about wounded, disabled vets as being the same thing, we obviously have vastly different moral compasses.
They are both jokes but since you consider one worse than the other. You consider it hate speech.
wow that's about the lamest attempt to backtrack I have ever seen, yup I never used the term hate speech just like I said, just because something is offensive or morally repugnant doesn't mean it's hate speech, because there's no such thing as hate speech, what you actually did was wrongfully assume and then made false accusations on that wrong assumption turning into and perpetuating a lie and put words in my mouth.

Another point that you consider what SNL did was hate speech. 
see previous reply, yet another distortion of the truth and another lie

Do you agree with this or are you not a free speech absolutist?
no changes need to be made to the 1a is that plain enough for you now?  perhaps you should have asked that first before the lies?

My position isn't that I don't think speech has consequence but you think a joke is a joke but hypocritical when it comes to people you dislike. I'll quote and make sure you see it this time.
that's the point of the thread YOU created LOL your attack on Crowder for a joke he made, then you split hairs by labeling him a political commentator like that is relevant.

How is my fault that you didn't quantify how many grown-ups you meant? That fault is on you.
children can often be pedantic, had I known you were a child I would have tried to be more specific and dumb it down more to avoid that.

Who is protecting this speech and how is control somehow freedom again?
um, seriously?  Are you not familiar with the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights?  control?  wtf are you even talking about?

you labeled him a sexist, sounds like a personal attack to me.  What if he has other videos that show him not to be a sexist, what then?









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wow that's about the lamest attempt to backtrack I have ever seen, yup I never used the term hate speech just like I said, just because something is offensive or morally repugnant doesn't mean it's hate speech, because there's no such thing as hate speech, what you actually did was wrongfully assume and then made false accusations on that wrong assumption turning into and perpetuating a lie and put words in my mouth.
No such thing as hate speech? That has got to be a joke and I didn't backtrack. Worse equals dislike and since you used it as your whataboutism you must really hate the speech SNL used against Crenshaw.
see previous reply, yet another distortion of the truth and another lie
If you don't even think it is exists why are you still talking to me as if you have some sort of stance to argue on? You arguing for a things non-existence when I can simply point to it existing. You hate someone I am sure and you might have vocalised it with your speech. That is hate speech. 
no changes need to be made to the 1a is that plain enough for you now?  perhaps you should have asked that first before the lies?
Protecting something that is free does not make it free and it does depend on who is protecting it as well. 
that's the point of the thread YOU created LOL your attack on Crowder for a joke he made, then you split hairs by labeling him a political commentator like that is relevant.
He is not a comedian he is a political commentator and I have shown earlier on his videos not making fun of politics instead commentating about it.
children can often be pedantic, had I known you were a child I would have tried to be more specific and dumb it down more to avoid that.
Let me tell you in a way you can understand. "grown-ups" is a plural. This can be 2-infinity. By you not telling me how much you are talking about this leaves it open ended and can mean you meant that for every single grown-up. Do you understand?

um, seriously?  Are you not familiar with the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights?  control?  wtf are you even talking about?
Protection is a sign of control/order not freedom. Protection goes against freedom of speech. If you need to protect freedom of speech then you don't actually have it. Do you understand?
you labeled him a sexist, sounds like a personal attack to me.
Labels are used to categorise a person of what they actually are. I don't deem that as a personal attack.
What if he has other videos that show him not to be a sexist, what then?
Still doesn't mean he isn't one. He is a Christian who are against equal rights if they followed the New Testament and since he does when he was drunk and thought he was off-camera it shows that just because Warren was a female her opinion can be disregarded. Here is my evidence:
Quotes "but woman is the glory of man."
“Wives, be submissive to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands."
"If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home."

I can go on since there are more quotes about what role women should have in Christianity. 
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All religions are sexist.