if iran keeps enriching nuclear fuel, america should bomb them

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The Tower Magazine is a monthly conservative, pro-Israel magazine devoted to long-form journalism about the Middle East.

The Tower is owned by The Israel Project, which is known as "Israel’s most effective nongovernmental public relations agency." [LINK]



Here's the funny thing.  After years of protests, the Brits gave some territories back to their occupants.

They gave India and Pakistan back to their own people.

BUT instead of giving "the holy land" back to the people they stole it from, THEY ESTABLISHED A BRAND NEW STATE.

The people who owned that "holy" land are still mad about it.  Just like the Indians.  Just like the Pakistanis.



It was this armed aggression, and the ethnic cleansing of at least three-quarters of a million indigenous Palestinians, that created the Jewish state on land that had been 95 percent non-Jewish prior to Zionist immigration and that even after years of immigration remained 70 percent non-Jewish. And despite the shallow patina of legality its partisans extracted from the General Assembly, Israel was born over the opposition of American experts and of governments around the world, who opposed it on both pragmatic and moral grounds. [LINK]
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Where is your proof that Iran does not supply military hardware to Hamas and Isis?

You can use any biased junk source you want if it has a shred of evidence.
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Where is your proof that Iran does not supply military hardware to Hamas and Isis?
Demanding "proof" of a negative claim is a CON-GAME TACTIC.

You can use any biased junk source you want if it has a shred of evidence.
You're missing the point.

Sixty-nine Palestinians were killed that night, two-thirds of whom were women and children. Fifty homes were demolished by the Israeli commandos. Sharon later wrote in his diary that he had received orders to inflict heavy damage on the Arab forces in the village: "The orders were utterly clear: Qibya was to be an example for everyone."

As the UN observers on the ground documented: "Witnesses [in Qibya] were uniform in describing their experience as a night of horror, during which Israel soldiers moved about in their village blowing up buildings, firing into doorways and windows with automatic weapons and throwing hand grenades." [LINK]
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Go ahead, tell me where Isis and Hamas are really getting their military hardware.

Use any biased junk source you want if it has evidence that I can go verify.
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Rocket attacks on Israel
Rocket attacks by Hamas have been condemned by Human rights organizations as war crimes, both because they usually take aim at civilians and because the weapons' inaccuracy would disproportionately endanger civilians even if military targets were chosen. After Operation Pillar of Defense, Human Rights Watch stated that armed Palestinian groups fired hundreds of rockets at Israeli cities, violating international humanitarian law, and that statements by Palestinian groups that they deliberately targeted Israeli civilians demonstrated an "intent to commit war crimes". HRW's Middle East director Sarah Leah Whitson said that Palestinian groups made clear that "harming civilians was their aim" and said that launching rockets at populated areas had no legal justification. International humanitarian law prohibits deliberate attacks on civilians and intentional violations can be war crimes.[390]

According to Human Rights Watch, Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups have launched thousands of rockets into Israel since 2001, killing 15 civilians, wounding many more, and posing an ongoing threat to the nearly 800,000 Israeli civilians who live and work in the weapons' range. Hamas officials have said that the rockets were aimed only at military targets, saying that civilian casualties were the "accidental result" of the weapons' poor quality. According to Human Rights Watch, statements by Hamas leaders suggest that the purpose of the rocket attacks was indeed to strike civilians and civilian objects. From January 2009, following Operation Cast Lead, Hamas largely stopped launching rocket attacks on Israel and has on at least two occasions arrested members of other groups who have launched rockets, "showing that it has the ability to impose the law when it wants".[391] In February 2010, Hamas issued a statement regretting any harm that may have befallen Israeli civilians as a result of Palestinian rocket attacks during the Gaza war. It maintained that its rocket attacks had been aimed at Israeli military targets but lacked accuracy and hence sometimes hit civilian areas. Israel responded that Hamas had boasted repeatedly of targeting and murdering civilians in the media.[392]

According to one report, commenting on the 2014 conflict, "nearly all the 2,500–3,000 rockets and mortars Hamas has fired at Israel since the start of the war seem to have been aimed at towns", including an attack on "a kibbutz collective farm close to the Gaza border", in which an Israeli child was killed.[393] Former Israeli Lt. Col. Jonathan D. Halevi stated that "Hamas has expressed pride in aiming long-range rockets at strategic targets in Israel including the nuclear reactor in Dimona, the chemical plants in Haifa, and Ben-Gurion Airport", which "could have caused thousands" of Israeli casualties "if successful".[394]

In July 2008 Barack Obama, then the Democratic presidential candidate, said: "If somebody was sending rockets into my house, where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that, and I would expect Israelis to do the same thing."[395] On December 28, 2008, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in a statement: "the United States strongly condemns the repeated rocket and mortar attacks against Israel."[396] On March 2, 2009, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned the attacks.[397]

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should all the kids on the play ground get a gun, cause they are all soveriegn?
First of all their not "kids", their adults of yes, soveriegn nations.

USA invasions list

..."Morocco, Algeria, Tunis, Libya (First Barbary War)
Canada (War of 1812)
Algeria (Second Barbary War)
Spain (Acquisition of Florida)
Cherokees (Indian Removal Act)
Indonesia (Expedition)
Ivory Coast (Expedition)
Cherokees (Trail of Tears)
Mexico (Annexation of Texas)
Mexico (Seizing of California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, some of Colorado, New Mexico, and the Texan border with the Rio Grande)
Sioux (Forced settlement and massacre)
Spain (Annexation of Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines)
Philippines (Reneges on promise of Philippine independence in exchange for Filipino support during the Spanish-American War)
Fiji (Expedition)
China (Second Opium War)
China (Looting China in response to the Boxer Rebellion as part of the Eight-Nation Alliance)
Taiwan (Expedition into Taiwan)
Korea (Korean Expedition in response to "insults")
Panama, Nicaragua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominica Republic, Honduras, Mexico (US shenanigans with their military)
Germany  (World War 1)
Russia (Russian Civil War - Formation of Soviet Union)
Germany, Japan, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria (WW2)
Korea (Korean War)
Vietnam (Vietnam War)
Guatemala (CIA overthrows of their government and funds dictator's armies)
Iran (CIA overthrows elected Prime Minister)
Cuba (Bay of Pigs)
Brazil (CIA helps overthrow the government and funds opposition groups)
Chile (CIA funds opposition then overthrows the government)
Grenada (Overthrow their government)
Nicaragua (Helps install a military junta)
Libya
Panama (Attempt to capture Gen. Manuel Noriega)
Honduras (Helps install a military junta)
Colombia (Funds and trains death squads)
Iraq (Desert Storm)
Iraq (Retaliation for alleged assassination plot)
Somali
Sudan, Afghanistan (Retaliation for terrorist attacks in embassies)
Serbia (Kosovo War)
Afghanistan (Response to 9/11)
Iraq (Bush's policy of war against WMD-developing states)
Iran (Stuxxnet - Cyber Warfare)
Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq (Drone Attacks)
Libya, Syria (No-fly zone and drone attacks)"..

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Iran has promised to ramp up their uranium enrichment.
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Sharia Law Theocracies are fucking nutso on a global scale.
Five myths regarding Sharia Law LINK not available

..."Fiqh  [--to understand--] scholars, for instance, have concluded that women have the right to orgasm during sex and to fight in combat. (Women fought alongside the prophet Muhammad himself.) Fiqh can also be interpreted as pro-choice, with certain scholars positing that although abortion is forbidden, first-trimester abortions are not punishable.

....Fiqh doctrine says a woman’s property, held exclusively in her name, cannot be appropriated by her husband, brother or father. (For centuries, this stood in stark contrast with the property rights of women in Europe.)

...Muslim women in America are sometimes shocked to find that, even though they were careful to list their assets as separate, those can be considered joint assets after marriage"...



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supply evidence that the US doesn't supply weapons to  hammas and isis. You don't understand reality.
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And when the Americans invaded the native tribes, were the native tribes "wrong" to "fight back"?

And when the Brits invaded the Americans, were the Americans "wrong" to "fight back"?

And when the Rohingya and the Kurds are branded as "terrorists" does that magically make them all "evil"?
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Hamas is regarded, either in whole or in part, as a terrorist organization by several countries and international organizations, most notably by Israel, the United States and the European Union.

Russia, China, and Turkey are among countries who do not regard it so. [LINK]
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Iran has promised to ramp up their uranium enrichment.
bEcause the ONLY reason they agreed to restrict and or delay their uranium enrichment was because they were told SANCTIONS WULD BE LIFTED.

And now that the USA has BROKEN THE DEAL and forced the EU and Russia and China to also BREAK THE DEAL, you can't be mad when Iran "ramps up their uranium enrichment".
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Was Nazi Germany wrong for invading Poland? 
After all, Poland was taken away from Germany by force.


Disgusting Nazi sympathizers.
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The problem is that your narrow mind does not see bad apples --bad interpretations-- in every group/reilgion/corporation or system of governance, rather only the ones you dont like.
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Five myths regarding Sharia Law LINK not available

..."Fiqh  [--to understand--] scholars, for instance, have concluded that women have the right to orgasm during sex and to fight in combat. (Women fought alongside the prophet Muhammad himself.) Fiqh can also be interpreted as pro-choice, with certain scholars positing that although abortion is forbidden, first-trimester abortions are not punishable.

....Fiqh doctrine says a woman’s property, held exclusively in her name, cannot be appropriated by her husband, brother or father. (For centuries, this stood in stark contrast with the property rights of women in Europe.)

...Muslim women in America are sometimes shocked to find that, even though they were careful to list their assets as separate, those can be considered joint assets after marriage"...

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So you would be Okay if Iran gave military aid to the UK to reclaim their colony. That's an insanely retarded position.

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Who did that.Lobtards
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No do-overs.

When you lose multiple wars prepare to lose your land. Maybe if Palestine didn't suck so bad at wars they wouldn't have lost their land, just like every empire that lost their land. Maybe if Britain didn't suck so bad at war they would be the largest nation on the planet.

No do-overs.


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No do-overs.
Yes, do overs until you can escape you narrow mind ---get outside of you armpit---   viewpoint of humanity.

Extremmists, fundamentalist, etc exist in every culture/relgion/corporation and system of governance.
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Five myths regarding Sharia Law LINK not available

..."Fiqh  [--to understand--] scholars, for instance, have concluded that women have the right to orgasm during sex and to fight in combat. (Women fought alongside the prophet Muhammad himself.) Fiqh can also be interpreted as pro-choice, with certain scholars positing that although abortion is forbidden, first-trimester abortions are not punishable.

....Fiqh doctrine says a woman’s property, held exclusively in her name, cannot be appropriated by her husband, brother or father. (For centuries, this stood in stark contrast with the property rights of women in Europe.)

...Muslim women in America are sometimes shocked to find that, even though they were careful to list their assets as separate, those can be considered joint assets after marriage"...


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Was Nazi Germany wrong for invading Poland? 
After all, Poland was taken away from Germany by force.


Disgusting Nazi sympathizers.
The problem is that the USA just makes up the rules as they go.

What is the PRINCIPLED and moral action when native people are subjugated or forced off their land and painted as criminals and terrorists??????????????????????????????
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So you would be Okay if Iran gave military aid to the UK to reclaim their colony. That's an insanely retarded position.
Please explain what you're talking about.
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What is the PRINCIPLED and moral action when native people are subjugated or forced off their land and painted as criminals and terrorists??????????????????????????????

Maybe because they eat each-other!Native Americans loved Columbus because they would have been FUCKING EATEN.
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Maybe because they eat each-other!Native Americans loved Columbus because they would have been FUCKING EATEN.
Please explain what you're talking about.
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So, according to your cited source, cannibalism was extremely rare in the new world and the best known examples are from Aztec rituals.
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That doesn't mean cannibalism never happened--there were certainly stories in the American Indian oral history about cannibalistic incidents
Can you read?

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I'd say Hamas launching 3000 rockets into civilian house counts for something maybe.
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That doesn't mean cannibalism never happened--there were certainly stories in the American Indian oral history about cannibalistic incidents
Can you read?
Are you quoting yourself?
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I'd say Hamas launching 3000 rockets into civilian house counts for something maybe.
So now you're hanging your hat on a tu quoque fallacy?

Your guiding moral principle appears to be "might makes right".

In that framework, there is no "moral highground".

Let's see who dies last, it worked out pretty well for the Irish.
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No,why would you think that