Pro-life or Pro-MURDER

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Are you pro-life or pro-MURDER.

i am a logical human being, so pro-life
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Are you pro-womens rights or pro women-as-property?

I am a logical human being, so pro womens rights
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women's right's but abortion isn't a right silly poo poo face
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Nor is getting squished out of your mum's vagina yet here we are
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AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA life is a right
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The right to get squished out of your mum's vagina is not synonymous with the right to life

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Sexual immorality leads to unwanted pregnancies and aborted children.


Maybe instead of debating the ethics of child sacrifice, people should re-examine what passes off as moral sexual behavior. 

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I agree. We should approach this problem with aggressive and excessive hedonism to determine how much is too much
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@dustryder
WRONG, you can't comprehend anything,can you?
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What a stunning argument. "WRONG". I was almost left speechless at that display of complex high level thought. I suppose I can only reply with

LOL NO U
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you don't get it, you can't debate with an imbecile
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Pro murder. Though you can not murder something not born.
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I certainly wouldn't have described you as an imbecile. You are too hard on yourself
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Retardation 1000000
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If it's not murder,what is it?
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Turning off life support. 
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Abortion is child sacrifice.

You don't want the child, so you sacrifice it.

It is evil.




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Sexual immorality
Don't  use meaningless terms, or define this term you have consistently failed to define for months.
Meaningless terms are your forte though.
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hey quack, back to conservitard cowardice I see.
women's right's but abortion isn't a right silly poo poo face

Yes it is and your opinion has no part in a woman's right to bodily autonomy.
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@Mopac
You don't want the child, so you sacrifice it.
That sounds like a yahwh god action. Human sacrifice is the cornerstone of your obscene beliefs don't pretend you think it's evil.

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Hey quacker OP
WTF are you talking about.
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@Mopac
Abortion is child sacrifice.
You don't want the child, so you sacrifice it.
It is evil.
Disposing of something unwanted is not 'sacrifice'.   The few societies that have practiced child sacrifice didso because children were precious to them - that is what gave such sacrifices special power.

I also think abortion is evil - but I judge it to be the lesser evil.  I'm pointing out Mopac's argument is emotional rhetorical nonsense.




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You can call it emotional rhetorical nonsense.

I will still call it child sacrifice.

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if abortion was a good thing, all pregnancies should be aborted!

That is why I say abortion is the lesser evil.  IMO, how evil an abortion is depends very much on how early or late the abortion is performed.  A very early abortion is not really prolematic, but a very late abortion is not much different from infanticide.  Note the 'IMO'!   There is no 'fact' -there is only opinion.
 
I am not an embryologist so I am not qualified to put numbers to a cut-off able point, but I support legislation that makes very early abortion easy to obtain and very late abortion almost impossible (not counting abortions for medical reasons, obviously).

British law does not permit abortion after 24 weeks.  As I said above, whether that is the right number is not something I can say.

I leave it open whether that makes me pro-life or pro-MURDER, or if that is a false dichotomy.

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Unfortunately keith you have a capacity for recognising nuance, a capacity that conservitard pro lifers simply don't possess. According to them the death of four cells is equivalent to the death of a 100yr old person. It's obvious that conservitards are incapable of independent thought, dogma has replaced intellect.
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Who was your god sacrificed to?
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Modern norms of what constitutes sexually moral behavior is in fact immoral, and I think that people ignore this because it isn't what they want to hear.

There is a reason why marriage is an institution, to us Orthodox even a Holy Mystery, a Sacrament. This is not an arbitrary thing. Or worse yet, a system of control that some radical feminists may assert.

Sex outside of marriage is immoral. It causes a lot of problems. Trying to circumvent these problems through birth control, std testing, etc does not fix the problem. Lessening the emotional invetlstment through insensitivity training does not fix the problem. Fixing thenproblem is the wrong approach.

Nip it in the bud. Sexual immorality is the real issue here. Self centerdness.





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@Mopac
So any of the 7.2 billion humans who don't belong to your ridiculously small religion are sexually immoral because the haven't been married in your nonsense churh. You have a very tenuous grasp on reality.
Who did you say your god was sacrificed to?
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Sexual immorality is the real issue here.
Is it?  I think the real issue is how we value the life of the unborn. 

If you make abortions harder to get, people may turn to contraception more, but they won't stop shagging!


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Considering that sexual immorality is normalized, sure, they won't. They won't see anything wrong with "shagging".


But it is immoral, and contraception is a way to get around this by mistaking utility for morality. It doesn't make sex outside of marriage moral.