Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?

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--> @Harikrish
You do nothing on DDO
--> @Dr.Franklin
You do nothing on DDO.
I don't go around bragging about getting dumped by women and buggered by men like you do.

Read you confessions.
Franklin confessed his life is all messed up. He suffers from a crippling depression and a very sore backside. He became a faggot after seeing many failed heterosexual relationships breakup. His own lack of ambition got him dumped. One would suspect he lived in a white trash neighbourhood or African ghetto.

Strong resentment towards women.
Faggot Franklin wrote: Yo they call sexist, Bitch shut yo fuc king face, I have seen the dark side of women and the feminists.

Causes of selective hearing post#8
Franklin wrote: I have a crippling depression.

Why Franklin became a faggot and a woman hater and turned to niggers for love?
Link title: Ask Dr. willows post#7

Why Franklin became a faggot and a woman hater? He was a peeping Tom and a pervert watching couples.
Franklin wrote: you see you will NEVER understand until you have seen the dark side

watching my brother's marriage fall apart when his career hit a rocky patch. His wife cheated on him while he was was at home raising their kid and trying to find work. He was also in a bad way at the time physically after his car collided with a moose and left him needing physio.

watching a family friend's marriage implode. As soon as his kids were 18 and off to college his wife started fucki ng a colleague. He's worked 50-60 hour weeks for years now she's taking half of everything.

watching my uncle be the biggest simp of all time and let his awful wife and ungrateful daughters suck the money and life out of him.

a female friend of mine of 12 years utterly disrespecting me by wasting my time and money (for no damn reason) then taking no responsibility and near enough ghosting me for my dissent.

my latest relationship ending because I "have no ambition".

an alarming amount of single women in the area I live having multiple children, Usually to different fathers.

one of my oldest friends being driven so insane by his cheating cunt of a wife that he attacked her in her sleep with a hammer and knife. He's currently half way through an 8 year sentence and is unlikely to see his children again.

Yeah, Women are fucked up.

Franklin is admonished by Harikrish:
You are a faggot. That is why the niggers are in your butthole.
You are rambling incoherently. Take your medication before continuing. And get the two niggers out of your butthole and [email protected]
Your public confessions about niggers in your private space.

You brought sex into your lessons by getting buggered in your own school by niggers.
Read your confession.

Post #1
Franklin wrote: " I got buggered by a nigger but I never gave consent."
You never gave consent to stop. Any wonder you have a sore backside. Lol!!!

Your public confessions about niggers in your butt space.
Post #2 Ethical Dilemmas
Dr Franklin wrote: niggas in my buutwhole

Post#10 Dr. Franklin comedy show.
Franklin wrote: <ins>The nigger that climbed up my butthole was drake the rapper

Repentance post#14
Dr. Franklin wrote: The Quran tells people to bugger infidels, Any evidence the nigger was a Christian

It was drake the rapper, I have his confession.
Drake:Yes I buggered Franklin.

You prayed for help and a redskin showed up. Jesus let the buggery continue.
Post #42 What stage is Hindu Hari?
Franklin wrote: Wrong again, Jesus the redskin doesn't know anything. TYPICAL.



--> @Harikrish
Why do you hate Africans
--> @Dr.Franklin
Why do you hate Africans?
You cannot be objective on this subject. We know why you love Africans. It's in your confessions.


Franklin confessed his life is all messed up. He suffers from a crippling depression and a very sore backside. He became a faggot after seeing many failed heterosexual relationships breakup. His own lack of ambition got him dumped. One would suspect he lived in a white trash neighbourhood or African ghetto.

Strong resentment towards women.
Faggot Franklin wrote: Yo they call sexist, Bitch shut yo fuc king face, I have seen the dark side of women and the feminists.

Causes of selective hearing post#8
Franklin wrote: I have a crippling depression.

Why Franklin became a faggot and a woman hater and turned to niggers for love?
Link title: Ask Dr. willows post#7

Why Franklin became a faggot and a woman hater? He was a peeping Tom and a pervert watching couples.
Franklin wrote: you see you will NEVER understand until you have seen the dark side

watching my brother's marriage fall apart when his career hit a rocky patch. His wife cheated on him while he was was at home raising their kid and trying to find work. He was also in a bad way at the time physically after his car collided with a moose and left him needing physio.

watching a family friend's marriage implode. As soon as his kids were 18 and off to college his wife started fucki ng a colleague. He's worked 50-60 hour weeks for years now she's taking half of everything.

watching my uncle be the biggest simp of all time and let his awful wife and ungrateful daughters suck the money and life out of him.

a female friend of mine of 12 years utterly disrespecting me by wasting my time and money (for no damn reason) then taking no responsibility and near enough ghosting me for my dissent.

my latest relationship ending because I "have no ambition".

an alarming amount of single women in the area I live having multiple children, Usually to different fathers.

one of my oldest friends being driven so insane by his cheating cunt of a wife that he attacked her in her sleep with a hammer and knife. He's currently half way through an 8 year sentence and is unlikely to see his children again.

Yeah, Women are fucked up.

Franklin is admonished by Harikrish:
You are a faggot. That is why the niggers are in your butthole.
You are rambling incoherently. Take your medication before continuing. And get the two niggers out of your butthole and [email protected]
Your public confessions about niggers in your private space.

You brought sex into your lessons by getting buggered in your own school by niggers.
Read your confession.

Post #1
Franklin wrote: " I got buggered by a nigger but I never gave consent."
You never gave consent to stop. Any wonder you have a sore backside. Lol!!!

Your public confessions about niggers in your butt space.
Post #2 Ethical Dilemmas
Dr Franklin wrote: niggas in my buutwhole

Post#10 Dr. Franklin comedy show.
Franklin wrote: The nigger that climbed up my butthole was drake the rapper

Repentance post#14
Dr. Franklin wrote: The Quran tells people to bugger infidels, Any evidence the nigger was a Christian

It was drake the rapper, I have his confession.
Drake:Yes I buggered Franklin.

You prayed for help and a redskin showed up. Jesus let the buggery continue.
Post #42 What stage is Hindu Hari?
Franklin wrote: Wrong again, Jesus the redskin doesn't know anything. TYPICAL.



--> @Harikrish
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--> @Dr.Franklin
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Your crippling depression needs attention.

--> @Harikrish
Then help me
--> @Dr.Franklin
Then help me.
For someone to seek help publicly simply proves your condition is serious and you are desperate. From your earlier confessions you appear to have had some bad experiences with women and the people you know reinforced your bad experiences with their own failures which caused you to turn to men for sexual gratification. These experiences can lead to depression and your misogynistic rantings are one such indication. Your experiences were short lived which suggests you suffer from premature ejaculation.
Your poor writing is proof of your poor education.

There are several treatments for  depression.
Therapy, anti-depressant drugs and electroconvulsive therapy

Not knowing the full extant of your condition I would suggest a simple test.
Hold an aspirin in your mouth and begin to masturbate. As the aspirin dissolves it will start to taste bitter (similar to the bad feeling in your mouth after a bad experience). It will take your mind off your madturbation which will have the effect of prolonging it. Repeat the test according to the number of aspirins you are allowed.
There!!! You will not only learn to handle your bitter experiences better, you would have  also fixed your premature ejaculation by concentrating on the bitter relationship.
when sufficiently treated invite your partner to participate. The aspirin will treat any headache she might have and your aspirin resistant erection will quell any further objection.

The savings from this free advice should pay for the rest of your date.
--> @Harikrish
Thank you!
--> @Dr.Franklin
Thank you
Try getting back to the topic. Was Jesus a liar and a lunatic?

--> @Harikrish
No it doesn't
--> @RationalMadman
Lucifer did what you say Satan did. Lucifer isn't Satan. Satan is God of the OT. The snake was Lucifer.
The snake is Satan in Revelation.

Rev 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Rev 20:2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 
--> @Harikrish
Hurled to earth? Satan was never hurled to Earth, but it's true that Lucifer was, as he was Jesus.

Hurled with the angels to Earth? Not to Hell? Strange thing to say, right? NT is full of lies, after all the character Jesus often would lie to maintain the illusion that himself was divine and higher than all others in relation to God.
--> @RationalMadman
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Hurled to earth? Satan was never hurled to Earth, but it's true that Lucifer was, as he was Jesus.

Hurled with the angels to Earth? Not to Hell? Strange thing to say, right? NT is full of lies, after all the character Jesus often would lie to maintain the illusion that himself was divine and higher than all others in relation to God.

Revelation 12:7-12

Michael Defeats the Dragon

7 And war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels fought against the dragon. The dragon and his angels fought back, 8but they were defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9The great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, proclaiming,
‘Now have come the salvation and the power
   and the kingdom of our God
   and the authority of his Messiah,*
for the accuser of our comrades* has been thrown down,
   who accuses them day and night before our God.
11 But they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb
   and by the word of their testimony,
for they did not cling to life even in the face of death.
12 Rejoice then, you heavens
   and those who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
   for the devil has come down to you
with great wrath,
   because he knows that his time is short!’
--> @Harikrish
Do you know how lying works?
--> @RationalMadman
Do you know how lying works?
I know how it works in scriptures.



Lucifer did what you say Satan did. Lucifer isn't Satan. Satan is God of the OT. The snake was Lucifer.

The snake is Satan in Revelation.

Rev 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Rev 20:2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.


--> @Harikrish
yes, he was lying. Satan was never sent down to the mortals.
--> @RationalMadman
Yes, he was lying. Satan was never sent down to the mortals.

2 Corinthians 4:4 New Living Translation (NLT)

4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.


John 12:31 Now judgment is upon this world; now the prince of this world will be cast out. 

Make your pick.
Satan is God of this world.
Satan is Prince of this world.
--> @Harikrish
OT is much more honest than NT so god of the world is the correct answer if the fictional world of the Bible were true.
--> @RationalMadman
OT is much more honest than NT so god of the world is the correct answer if the fictional world of the Bible were true.
Remember Jesus was tempted by Jesus. So Satan was in the world.
see Matthew 4:1-11
--> @RationalMadman
OT is much more honest than NT so god of the world is the correct answer if the fictional world of the Bible were true.
Remember Jesus was tempted by Satan. So Satan was in the world. See Matthew 4:1-11.

If Satan is still in the world then Jesus's mission was a failure. That's like leaving the Serpent with Adam and Eve. 
40 days later
Why did Jesus find it so difficult to convince the people of his time that he was a messiah? Let us exagmine some of the methods he used to shed light on why he failed in his mission, Which was to save the lost people of Israel.
Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. " -

Jesus tried to convince the people John tbe Baptist was the Elijah, The Elijah that was to come before the Lord. But John denied he was Elijah.
John 1:21 "Then who are you? " they inquired. "Are you Elijah? " He said, "I am not. " "Are you the Prophet? " He answered, "No. "

John the Baptiat was expecting a messiah that would deliver the people from their sins and Roman occupation. But instead Jesus went around playing doctor which cause John to doubt Jesus was the promised deliverer.
Matthew 11:3 to ask Him, "Are You the One who was to come, Or should we look for someone else? . . .

Jesus tried to convince the people through miracles that he was the messiah. But the people ignored his trickery and threatened to stone him for blasphemy.
John 10:33 "We are not stoning You for any good work, " said the Jews, "but for blasphemy, Because You, Who are a man, Declare Yourself to be God. "

Jesus then tried other gimmicks to convince the people. He tried to destroy the traditional family. That didn't work.
Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, But a sword. 35 For I have come to turn ""a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother, A daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law"
36 a man"s enemies will be the members of his own household. "[c]

He promised them they would be saved if they ate his flesh and drank his blood. The people walked away in disgust.
John 6: 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, And I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, And I in them.
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

Jesus's family and the people who knew him were convinced he was a demon possessed madman.
Mark 3:21 When His family heard about this, They went out to take custody of Him, Saying, "He is out of His mind. "
John 10:20 Many of them said, "He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him? . . .

Jesus seeing he was losing the people decided to lay low for a while. He told his disciple to keep his identity a secret.
Matthew 16:20 Then He admonished the disciples not to tell anyone that He was the Christ.

So what made Jesus come out of the closet and go against he better instincts and self preservation. His drinking and alcoholism finally got to him. After some heavy drinking at Passover festival Jesus went out to pray. He prayed to God to take away the cup he was drinking from. His alcoholism was now apparent. He even stumbled and fell on his face in his drunken stupor.
Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, He fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, If it is possible, May this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, But as you will. "

The next day Jesus was arrested and tried, Convicted and crucified. On the cross Jesus lamented. For someone with a messiah complex it had to be disappointing.
Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, Lema sabachthani? " which means, "My God, My God, Why have you forsaken Me? "

Even the Pope declared Jesus's life was a failure and the cross a failure of God.

Pope Francis said during his whirlwind U. S. Tour. "And if at times OUR EFFORTS AND WORKS SEEM TO FAIL AND PRODUCE NO FRUIT, We need to REMEMBER that WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS we are followers of Jesus. . . And His LIFE, Humanly speaking, ENDED IN FAILURE, THE FAILURE OF THE CROSS. "

When you don"t understand something, When desperation hits you then look at the cross. THAT IS THE GREAT FAILURE OF GOD, THAT IS THE DESTRUCTION OF GOD, AND IT'S A CHALLENGE TO OUR FAITH.
--> @Harikrish
Regarding your first post (OP), you take verse after verse and misrepresent the teaching of Scripture by collapsing contexts, insinuating that it was a main teaching and not an aberration of the apostles and teachings regarding Jesus. Next, you compile a list of liberal activists (appeal to authority - or those who present a favourable to your position article) and refer others to that article or person. Third, you swamp the threads with biased, unfair and misrepresentations of what Christianity teaches to sway minds to your biased position (a bombarding of posts, 12 so far in your war against Christianity). Fourth, your eisegesis concerns nothing of the audience of address (you present an entirely new audience that you make up) or the timeframe (apply it as primarily addressing those today or pay little attention to what the authors meant in time statements) and what it meant to that audience.

For instance, John 10:20 with more of the context:

19 A division occurred again among the Jews because of these words. 20 Many of them were saying, “He has a demon and is insane. Why do you listen to Him?” 21 Others were saying, “These are not the sayings of one demon-possessed. A demon cannot open the eyes of the blind, can he?” (NASB)

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What of the Jews of the 1st-century? Many of them were looking for a Messiah who would fulfill their corrupted view of Scripture. The NT makes it clear that their minds, ears, eyes, were closed in understanding, blocked, and blind to the spiritual truth of Scripture, just as I claim yours are, Harikrish. 

More of the passage reveals why they were so upset - they were not His sheep. They were in rebellion against God as Isaiah pointed out in that He [Jesus] would speak in parables (Hosea 12:10Ezekiel 20:49Matthew 13:9-11, etc) and present types and anti-types, and they would not understand Him. Remember the context of the NT is one of a soon-coming judgment on Israel for their idolatry.


Matthew 13:14-17 (NASB)
14 In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says,
You will keep on hearing, but will not understand;
You will keep on seeing, but will not perceive;
15 For the heart of this people has become dull,
With their ears they scarcely hear,
And they have closed their eyes,
Otherwise they would see with their eyes,
Hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart and return,
And I would heal them.’
16 But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear. 17 For truly I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.

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More of the context of John 10,  

11 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. 12 He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. 13 He flees because he is a hired hand and is not concerned about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, 15 even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. 17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. 18 No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father.”

So, even though Scripture gives these honest examples of dissent it does not present an unfavourable reading of who Jesus is and what He came to do overall, but more of what some of the JEWS of the day perceived Him

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Now, regarding my experience in dialogue with Harikrish and a likely scenario, based on these previous encounters. He will swamp the next posts with all kinds of superficial and irrelevant quotes from Scripture that have nothing to do with this John 10:20 passage like he did on the discussion I had with him on John the Baptist. On that particular argument, he centred on one saying of John the Baptist and read into Scripture and built all kinds of innuendo that had nothing to do with the content or explanation given in the context. 

--> @PGA2.0
So, even though Scripture gives these honest examples of dissent it does not present an unfavourable reading of who Jesus is and what He came to do overall, but more of what some of the JEWS of the day perceived Him.

Let us test your conclusion.

1. Jesus said he was sent only to save the lost sheep of Israel
Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

But we know the Jews rejected Jesus and asked that he be crucified.

Luke 23:21 but they kept shouting, "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!"

2. Jesus divided the Jews even further. The Romans replaced judaism the religion that Jesus followed with The Roman Catholic Church. They replace the Holy Temple with the Roman Catholic Church. They destroyed Jerusalem and scattered the Jews from their homeland.


3. Jesus blamed God for his failures.
Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?" 

Yet  he asked God to forgive the  Romans after insulting God.
Luke 23:34 Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up His garments by casting lots.

4. Jesus was a liar before and after his death.
Before: Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.

But scriptures tell us Jesus lives in his father's house and works as a house keeper preparing rooms for guests.
John 14:My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

5. Jesus claimed he was sent by God to fulfill the laws of the prophets.

Daniel 9:25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One,the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’In the middle of the ‘seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the templehe will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

When Jesus was asked when these things would happen he was clueless.
Matthew 24:3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Is it any wonder that Peter lied about Jesus and Judas betray him. The Jews rejected Jesus and the Romans crucified him?
Is it any wonder that 2 billion Christians picked a demon possessed madman a liar and lunatic to die for their sins. Only Christians believe an illegitimate Jewish bastard name Jesus died for their sins 2000 years ago.
Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups.

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

--> @Harikrish
If we are so stupid, how come you can't explain what we believe to our satisfaction?