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How many civilians have been killed by the U.S. military? [LINK]
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Whataboutism actually doesn't stabilize the Middle East, or stop Hamas rockets.

Sanctions do though.
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Sanctions do though.
You've ended terrorism forever!!!!!
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You've ended terrorism forever!!!!!
Orange Man Bad!
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Both the UK and the US are wrong.
You've got to be kidding me.

The reason the sanctions are here in the first place is because Iran (a country that can't be trusted with nukes) started developing uranium. The initial response of the Iran Nuke Deal was terrible, and swapping it for some sanctions instead is far better.
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The reason the sanctions are here in the first place is because Iran (a country that can't be trusted with nukes) started developing uranium. The initial response of the Iran Nuke Deal was terrible, and swapping it for some sanctions instead is far better.
I guess it worked out pretty well for North Korea.
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Context? I don't understand why you are bringing North Korea up.
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Because whataboutism is the only way deranged people can possibly defend a Radical Far Right Theocracy like Iran.
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Context? I don't understand why you are bringing North Korea up.
They were developing NUKES and broke the deal that would have stopped them, so the U.S. sanctioned the carp out of them and that totally fixed the "problem".
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Sanctions do though.
And that's why Cuba is now a fun-loving democracy!!!!!!!
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Cuba has no nukes. Checkmate.

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It brought NK to the talking table, which is certainly a step i the right direction.
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@Mharman
The reason the sanctions are here in the first place is because Iran (a country that can't be trusted with nukes) started developing uranium. The initial response of the Iran Nuke Deal was terrible, and swapping it for some sanctions instead is far better.
So it is Iran's fault that the US has a change of heart even though they were following the first deal?

Why should Iran accept United States sanctions?

Do you not see it as a slap on the face when the United States impose a harsher deal even when they haven't proven Iran broke the previous deal? 

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Iran should've had those harsher sanctions in the first place instead of the Iran Nuke Deal.

Besides, they could've used that money from the Iran Nuke Deal to foster peace and prosperity. But they gave funding to Hezbollah instead.

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@Mharman
Iran should've had those harsher sanctions in the first place instead of the Iran Nuke Deal.
But they didn't and guess what? With that they didn't use it to build nuclear weapons. If they did the US government would have such an easy time leaking Iran's nuclear supplies with espionage but that is not the case.
Besides, they could've used that money from the Iran Nuke Deal to foster peace and prosperity. But they gave funding to Hezbollah instead.
Could doesn't mean they have. What we do know that a less harsh deal Iran kept to it but still the US couldn't trust them. Wonder why? Maybe because Trump took into office and Obama and Trump think differently.
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The Iran Nuke Deal wasn't a solution. We basically gave them tons of money to delay their nuclear program. We need it stopped, not delayed. And that's why going back on the Nuke Deal and opting for sanctions was the right call.
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@Mharman
The Iran Nuke Deal wasn't a solution
So why not actually give them a deal which is good for them instead of f*ing them over?
We basically gave them tons of money to delay their nuclear program.
Evidence that the United States government gave them money?
And that's why going back on the Nuke Deal and opting for sanctions was the right call.
If you think Iran is a threat then propaganda has worked. I am not surprised. I just know one more person willing to go to war with yet another country who poses no foreseeable threat to the United States. 

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So why not actually give them a deal which is good for them instead of f*ing them over?

They are TERRORISTS, They have killed 300 of our troops



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So why not actually give them a deal which is good for them instead of f*ing them over?

Because we need a deal that's good for us. Here's an idea. They denuclearize, we remove the sanctions.

Evidence that the United States government gave them money?
"Under the deal, Iran gained access to more than $100bn in assets frozen overseas, and was able to resume selling oil on international markets and using the global financial system for trade."


If you think Iran is a threat then propaganda has worked.
They fund terrorists. they chant "death to America". How are they a non-threat?

 I just know one more person willing to go to war 
I don't want a war...

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Because we need a deal that's good for us. Here's an idea. They denuclearize, we remove the sanctions.
How about the US don't bomb Iran and Iran won't do the same?
What is the difference between the UK and the US compared to the US and Iran?
"Under the deal, Iran gained access to more than $100bn in assets frozen overseas, and was able to resume selling oil on international markets and using the global financial system for trade."

It is oil not nukes. Are Iran not even allowed to trade anymore?
They fund terrorists. they chant "death to America". How are they a non-threat?
Evidence of funding terrorism.
Evidence that death of America resulted in an attack to America?
They are completely against the US. They wouldn't attack the US given the striking advantage they. It is insane to even think they would instigate the war so the US will. I thin the US will at least go to war with Iran.
I don't want a war...
Then tell your Republican representatives that. 

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Did you even read the title?

"THE U.S. KILLED 300 IRANIAN CITIZENS. AMERICANS DON'T REMEMBER THIS—BUT IRANIANS DO"

They are terrorists for wanting revenge on what the US instigated? 

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What did you U.S instigated, because of that they caused terrorism for the world.
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What did you U.S instigated, because of that they caused terrorism for the world.
Your own source provided an example where the US were the aggressor and Iran wanted vengeance. You have a problem with what Iran did but not what US did to start that specific conflict?

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Why would Iran want vengeance, did we kill their troops
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@Dr.Franklin
Read post #51. What I quoted from your source.

Do quote it in your next response so I know you read it. 

When you kill innocents you have crossed the line. Do you agree?
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I did read the title, And no if you kill civilians, it's your fault for starting war
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I did read the title, And no if you kill civilians, it's your fault for starting war
So starting a war means you can kill people who are not part of that war?
Do you have a source to support that Iran started the war? 
How do you start a war? 
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So starting a war means you can kill people who are not part of that war?
Yes, it's war,war is hell

Do you have a source to support that Iran started the war? 
They were the aggressors

How do you start a war? 
Being overily aggresive

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Yes, it's war,war is hell
Okay so why are you so annoyed when Iran attacks but not when the US does? Are you a hypocrite?
They were the aggressors
Evidence?
Being overily aggresive
How do you be aggressive? 

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Okay so why are you so annoyed when Iran attacks but not when the US does? Are you a hypocrite?\
No, because we aren't aggressors

Evidence?
Increasing aggression in the Iraq-Iran war

How do you be aggressive? 

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