Throne of Glass Mafia DP2

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The rule is, don't try to convince scum they are scum, they already know it, try to convince us. I think BSH1 is scum also, I am just waiting for more people to come aboard before placing my vote anywhere. I want to see if there is new information. Can somebody tag people who have not posted yet

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So you are saying that bsh1 is in fact scum?

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Yes, I believe it is true. 
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@bsh1
I'm impatient, I wanted to wait until everybody got on, but I guess I'll start this process now.

Who did you visit last night?
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@Club
He is definitely scum, we will get into that shortly though.
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@Mharman
darn it they killed the cop
It honestly does not matter, I saw BSH1 kill Disc, and he was Disc's only visitor, so we have confirmed scum
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Oh, how could I forget.

VTL BSH1
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Active as fuck until exposed. Typical. I just think this is a bad tactic as scum, come up with a lame excuse immediately for being the only visitor to the NK, instead of taking hours to think about it before coming online
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Ok so some thoughts I had after end of day yesterday:
One thing that really concerns me is how high I am in some people's town reads. There were 2-3 people that had me in the top third of their reads despite me doing almost nothing last phase. I'd like to hear more about why people are townreading me because I think they could be going for an easy pocket on me (for whatever reason)

Post 244 is mildly concerning from Bsh in my opinion. This is a lot of effort spent on a post that doesn't really say a whole lot. It feels like scum is trying to look busy and not actually do anything to solve. Like this post is ironically not doing anything to scumhunt, which is the reason it was made in the first place.

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In post #11 of this DP, bsh1 says: "It feels odd that mafia would kill either of the two lynchwagon targets last DP (myself and Disc), because arguably they would have been the best mislynch opportunities. "

And he's right. Any scum that isn't disc or bsh1 would have two easy mislynches.

This means that since one of them is dead, scum can't be outside of disc and bsh1, unless scum is nooby.

If scum is not noob, than bsh1 is the mafia since scum would be between him and disc and disc is already confirmed town, making bsh1 scum by PoE.

If scum is noob, than it points directly to WaterPhoenix, given that everyone else has experience.

We have one scenario that points to WaterPhoenix, and one that points to Bsh1.

Scum is between them or both of them.

So who do we lynch?

This literally makes no sense
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Wylted, Supadudz and Warren have been the least active so far. Therefore we can assume they are either a cop or a townie. The mafia would probably try to post a little to not attract attention.
I understand the logic as to us being a cop, but why specifically a cop and not another power role trying to lay low (ie doctor)? Especially when there's a dead 1x cop.

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Thats borderline C/P buddy. I’ll let it go since you’re a noob, but like just paraphrase.

Something like I am Aedion Ashryver, the half - Fae cousin of Aelin. I am forced to be a General for the King of Adarlan after the defeat of Terrasen but I work behind his back and secretly support the rebel cause of Terrasen by supplying weapons, etc. Therefore I’m Vanilla Town.

Ok so water is confirmed town and if you disagree you're an idiot
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VOTE COUNT

Bsh1 (2/6) - Club, Wylted

Wylted (1/6) - Greyparrot

Greyparrot (1/6) - Bsh1

Please let me know if I’ve made any mistakes.

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Ok... I'd like to hear more from Bsh with regard to the allegations Wylted has made against him.

I had actually been thinking Bsh's push on Grey was both good and genuine, as I too wanted Grey to claim his target, but this changes things.
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@warren42
You guys need to get of of BSH1's nuts. He spent 2 pages fighting with the mod over a rule about the scumteam that would have made zero sense if BSH was on the scum team.
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@Greyparrot
So explain why he's the only one that visited the NK?
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@warren42
You're assuming Wylted isn't bluffing to get a response, which is his standard mode of operation.
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@Greyparrot
I asked Bsh for more information, so I'm not positive, but I think it's most likely he's not
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You guys need to get of of BSH1's nuts. He spent 2 pages fighting with the mod over a rule about the scumteam that would have made zero sense if BSH was on the scum team.
 I literally saw him visit the NK target. He is confirmed scum, water is confirmed town. Get over it

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You see how he went quiet when he got caught also
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Yes it would make Water town. This means that scum is not noob and has to be between you and Disc, since no one else would want to NK a potential lynch target. Since Disc is confirmed town...

VTL bsh1
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If bsh1 flips town you’re lynched.
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If bsh1 flips town you’re lynched.
As it should. Nobody hammer until BSH1 has a chance to defend himself though please

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Water is a town. He claimed a valg without a role, and since I am a valg and Water is a valg, that means the town must be a valg role.
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I knew Disc was town. Gut feeling. Oh well
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I would not be suprised if Oro and GP are a scum team or Bsh and GP

GP to be is the strongest scum

VTL GP
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@Club
Activity is not a genuine sign of town or scum to be honest. Lots of lurkers and such.
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Can you comment on me seeing BSH1 visit Disc?
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Do we have confirmation?
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If that is true then we got our scum

Unvote VTL bsh1

GP is his partner. There is evidence lining up to this.