CNN Dem Debate 2

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Yang correct that we need to de-escalate the situation with Iran because pulling out of the agreement that Iran now breached is what caused a lot of the recent tension we now have with Iran. As much as you could disagree with Iran about how they do things, they still pose far less of a threat than North Korea or Russia who Trump has been cozying up to.  
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Biden questioned about his vote on Iraq. NOW he admits that he first made a mistake by voting in favor of the war and lists the things hes done to show he wont make the mistake again 

Gabbard not throwing Biden under the bus and blaming the Iraq War on Bush is really taking the high road here. Shit, I like her even more because of that.

De Blasio trying to get a word in on Iran when the convo already ended about XD
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Wow thats it, already on to the discussion of possible impeachment? 

No discussion about the situation in Central America that has triggered the border ciris
No discussion about North Korea 
No discussion about Russian cyber-aggression
No discussion about the role of NATO

A question about Afghanistan, Iran, and thats it. Fucks sake....
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Bennett having a really smart moment by pointing out that an impeachment against Trump will likely end by a vote at the hands of Mitch McConnell. At this point when the election is less than a year and a half away, the window for impeachment has already closed 

Castro claiming that going after impeachment and getting stopped by McConnell is fuel they can use to increase turnout. The point of impeachment is to actually remove a president who has completed an illegal act, not so that when the impeachment charge fails it can be used as fuel to increase turnout in the next election. 
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I'm basically where you are. I like both Amy Klobuchar and Tulsi Gabbard.  I'm leaning towards Gabbard so far.  I value her military service, and that its contributed to her experience as an American as well.  I was impressed in the past when she laid out her platform in tangible terms of how she considers her duty as President of the United States, and in relation to the people who form policy.  I've seen her suggest a modern worldview of economic aggression, something I think she observes Donald Trump's America first policy with noted criticism.  She seems to have some independence from the party brass, and I think she has the attitude to maintain integrity when people turn on her.  She's young, but I hope she proves herself through the campaign and I think she can beat Donald Trump.

Amy Klobuchar I am familiar with as a representative.  I associate her as an apple pie Midwest liberal more qualified than Barack Obama, with a good mindset towards serving her country, but never displayed presidential distinction to me. I haven't had much time to look out for it yet.  Both are polling so low.  I wish they at least had greater respect.

I would consider voting for Bernie if I lived in Vermont as a senator because I'm impressed by some of his past flags on economic issues, but I can't tell if he's ignorant or insane.  I wonder if he just campaigns to advertise himself.

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I'm feel like a minority in my support for the 2nd amendment as a part of the greater constitution, that Joe Biden doesn't support, and he doesn't do enough to distinguish himself.  The way he speaks on foreign policy is always wishy washy, like everything else.  
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Closing statements, thats a wrap I guess. 

De Blasio = Entirely Forgettable. That last line of saying Trump is for 'Socialism for the Rich' kind of embodies his campaign. A long pause and then, 'what?'

Bennet = Pretty Forgettable. He had one or two smart moments where he showed he had done his homework, but he still blends together with all the rest of the white male centrists too much to stand out. 

Inslee = Pretty Forgettable. Like Bennet, but I do like him a tad more in comparison. His more outspoken arguments and stances on climate change proposals does give him a little bit of distance with the blob of centrist candidates, but he's not going to become a top-tier candidate at this rate. 

Gilibrand = Pretty Forgettable. Despite having some name recognition compared to other candidates, she hasnt had that 'moment' that really gets her campaign a lot of attention and gets her a bump in the polls. She reminds me a lot like Amy Klobuchar, a solid person to be a Senator, but not president. 

Gabbard = Alright = She went toe-to-toe with Harris and got to have her moment on Iraq again, but she needed to do a lot more then that to really elevate her candidacy. 

Castro = Pretty Forgettable = Castro's ace in the hole where he is the best candidate is on the topic of immigration, where he has really done his research and has probably the most intricate policy proposals for the topic. Unfortunately he used that card in the last debate, and in this one he didnt do much else to take it a step further

Yang = Improved = Yang absolutely receded into the background in the first debate where the only questions he got were about his UBI position. This time he got more speaking time, more diverse questions, and as a non-politician he is a respectable 'outsider' candidate who will stick around a bit longer. 

Booker = Improved = More relaxed, clearer/more articulate, took some noticeable shots at Biden, whether his poll numbers elevate remains to be seen, but he definitely did better in this debate than in the previous debate. 

Harris = Solid = Good amount of speaking time, held her own even when she had to play defense, She'll continue to hang around the 4th or 5th spot in the polls behind Biden, Sanders, and Bernie and I think she'll really be able to make it deep into the primaries once they kick in.  

Biden = Alright = Took a ton of shots from a bunch of different candidates, but he didn't 'sink' the way Rubio sank against Chris Christie in 2016. He got through it okay, Im sure he'll still be at the top of the polls when they come out, as long as he keeps doing his homework on the issues he'll hang in there. 
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Obviously, Tulsi is my favorite of the crew.. it's too bad the primaries are still rigged.
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Thanks for doing these debate things.

This interview is from Joe Biden on foreign policy while he was still serving in the Whitehouse, 2016.
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Which he doesn't need to do 40 posts
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He's doing it as he's going along. How else is he suppose to do it?
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its two sentence spam

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Franklin is committed to being in the wrong about this, as evidenced by how he outed himself as a bitch and didnt challenge the notion that he was mentally handicapped. Just leave him be.  
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Should see this to see what is actually happening.

Biden is still winning and looks the most likely to face Trump.



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As long as Warren and Sanders split the far left vote and no other moderate candidate gains any traction, I dont see Biden losing his lead. Pete Buttigeig might be a bigger threat if he were a governor or a senator, but as a mayor his ceiling is fairly low, and I dont see him challenging Biden.

It is interesting to though see how Biden and Kamala's support almost mirror each other. After the first debate Biden lost a good chunk to her, but now he's been gaining it back over the past couple of weeks  
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He gained it back because Kamala couldn't carry on her hitjob like she did in the first round. The segregation was a killer topic but she had nothing more offer in Round 2 as impactful.