Why are we here?

This is my exact point. We have no evidence that there was a time before the big bang or even if before is even a sensical term to use.

1st law of thermodynamics and I will keep repeating until it doesnt just go in one of your ears and out the other without sincere consideration of what that means.

No creation ergo no cosmic source only local ignorance ---ex SM---,

No destroying ergo eternal.  This is simple minimal brainer of those who do not have ego based mental blockage to truth, as observed by humans.

nothing can occur without time. It is stasis.events occur in time.

You will have to demonstrate the 1st law of thermodynamics outside our current observable physical universe

before we can count on the fact that the 1st law of thermodynamics exists outside our local observable physical universe.

Do you not understand what I'm saying? Or do you just not understand why I would even ask for evidence because you are unable to imagine being wrong?

Metaphysiscal-2 macro-infinite non-occupied space is out-side of Universe ergo it is a Space that embraces Universe we can point to its in any direction because it is a Space.

Focusing on only this and nothing else.

We do not know what is outside our local observable physical universe. Any claim made about what is outside our local observable spacetime is therefore by necessity only conjecture.

You will not go any further with me then what we have observed and demonstrated. Period. 

Yeah we already know that you dont believe we dont live in a finite, occupied space Universe, ergo the only alternative is and infinite occupied space Universe.

This double negative kills my eyes. If I can clarify my position however. I do not believe that the cosmos is finite. I do not believe that the cosmos is infinite. I do not believe that the cosmos has a beginning. I do not believe that the cosmos has existed eternally. All I believe is that we do not and cannot know.

This double negative kills my eyes. If I can clarify my position however. I do not believe that the cosmos is finite. I do not believe that the cosmos is infinite. I do not believe that the cosmos has a beginning. I do not believe that the cosmos has existed eternally. All I believe is that we do not and cannot know.

Or you dont want to know ergo will not process any rational, logical common sense based on observations and verification of those facts.

You would rather play mind games. 

Ok I think I understand. We have finally gotten to the plain message behind your confusing posts and unorthodox language.

You think that I am refusing to accept your position just to gas light you.

This is not the case ebuc. I am genuine when I say that I do not know if the laws of thermodynamics apply outside of our local physical universe

and I don't know that the local physical universe or its constituent parts  are or could be eternal.

Theist: Why are we here?

Answer: Depends how far you want to go back.

At the point where you are telling me what I believe oir conversation is over. 

Any rational, logical common sense conversation never existed with you. Ego based mental blockage is your problem and many others around here.

Whereas space and time might offer unlimited potential.

Ignorant attempt of throwing out enough goo maybe some of it will stick somewhere.

You need to start with reading my rational, logical common sense lips/text, not espousing your irrational, lack of rational, logical common sense.

Sm and you are like two kids in a sand box. And you take turns throwing sand out of the sand box and think, this sand is never ending and we keep throwing further and further and further ergo we must be Gods who have no limits to sand or how far we can throw it.

Some of us are in adult world now.  I hope will grow out of you childhood misinterpretations about Universe.  I doubt it tho. Who can tell. The futures not ours to see, casa-ra sa-ra

Humans purpose in being here is to harvest information, sort the information into orderly way, discover patterns and principles, apply those patterns and principles via technoliges that support ourselves the ecological enviroenment that sustains us, and the integrity of Universe.  

Most of the above is paraphrasing Bucky Fuller, that I have done consistently with integrity for some 20 years or more

False, since and eternally existent, Universe there is time length that references the existence of occupied space.

Humans have this ego based mental issue when it comes to comprehension of;

1} eternal occupied space existence vs terminal biological existence, and,

2} infinite Space  vs finite occupied Space

Seems pretty ego based.

I don’t see how your explanation contradicts what I said. Can you clarify please?

They are the facts of what humans do, that all other animals do not do, or do but too a much greater of less degree.

Well yes, humans have access to and ego, whereas animals have such lesser degree of access to ego.

Your comment ..."Answer: Depends how far you want to go back."... presumes there is some time length that will explain why Universe or just humans exist.  I will repeat, in an eternally existent, occupied space Universe, time is irrelevant to how Universe came to exist.  Eternity is beyond time, ergo any time length value we want to reference is irrelevant to eternity.

I'm not sure or others grasp     what eternity means and that is partly because humans only witness terminality of their lives, terminality of other biologics lives, a beginning time to Earth, terminallity { decay } of particles { natural occuring decay } except of the proton whcih is assumed to have a natural decay rate, that we dont know of yet.

Then in same breath of people who cannot grasp eternity, that will start spouting off about and unlimited occupied space Universe ergo ignorant of systemic and structual integrity only being finite.

Eternity is to time, as,

Infinity is to occupied space.

Eternity and infinite are beyond { meta } their repective counter parts, of time and finite, occupied space

And we are back to this. If I don't agree specifically with ebuc it has nothing to do with ebuc's argument the problem must be that I am an egotistical idiot.

I see no reason to believe in space and time as intangibles.

YAY very good SM. Only one fault there. Macro-infinite non-occupied space is not a tangible, it is tangent to our finite, occupied space Universe and that is the only way tangent or tangible is involved with it.

Non-occupied space embraces/surround our finite Universe. Old news to those who follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought, that are also based on observation.

Non-occupied space embraces/surrounds our finite universe

So does there need to be a caveat of purpose to said view, which isn’t ego based?

Original question: How are we here? “here” refers to present occupied spacetime. No other variable

Original answer: Depends how far you want to go back.

‘Going back’ requires spacetime. No other variable.