Could Donald Trump win re-election?

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    I want to know what others think about this and why. I personally think he has a good chance considering the lineup of dem nominees...

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    He is going the wrong way, MEETING WITH THE FUCKING TALIBAN ON HIS PRIVATE RESORT ISN'T GOING TO WIN HIM REELECTION AND ESPECIALLY RIGHT BEFORE FUCKING 9/11. WHAT ARE YOU DOING, ARE YOU CRAZY?????? MEETING WITH TERRORISTS 
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    I think he will win, but Jesus Christ what is he thinking, The Middle East isn't a celebrity game
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    Yeah I wasn't too crazy about the timing either, but yeah why do you think he'll win?
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    I'm not a minority or protected class.  I work and want to keep as much of the money I earn as possible.  The constitution must be protected.  Who are my choices to vote for?
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    - His approval ratings in close to every potential swing state has dropped anywhere from 5 to 15 points, to the point that in many of those swing states a majority disapprove of him compared to approve of him: https://fortune.com/2019/08/27/trumps-approval-rating-polls/

    - In midterms of 2018 a MASSIVE number of seats of the house flipped from red to blue, where even districts that were Republican strongholds for years if not decades flipped to the other side: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democrats-rack-more-gains-house-key-tight-races-are-called-n934066

    - The literally non-stop line of self inflicted controversies by Trump and his administration is leading to fatigue among his supporters from trying to defend his actions. This month alone he got into a spat with Denmark for refusing to sell Greenland to him, invited Taliban operatives to the US to negotiate right before 9/11, tried to claim that he was right that Alabama was at risk of Hurricane Dorian with a map that had sharpie bubbled over Alabama, once again ramped up the trade war with China, and lost his third national security adviser who is now spatting over whether it was a resignation or an actual firing

    - Greater risk of a recession is becoming an issue which is the number one indicator of whether or not an incumbent will keep or lose their position in the White House: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-08/u-s-recession-odds-pick-up-as-economists-cut-growth-estimates

    - The top performing Dem candidates regularly beat Trump in head to head nation-wide matchups across almost every organization that has polling https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/

    If current trends continue, the only way Trump DOESNT lose in 2020 is if Dems nominated Marianne Williamson and then fed her nothing but acid and tic tacs for 3 months prior to the election taking place. He will need a massive economic boom to come in out of nowhere, healthcare prices to drop 70% or more across the board out of nowhere, or every terrorism organization in the world offering to surrender in order for Trump to win re-election..... He was able to frame the 2016 election as a vote of confidence on how well the government is functioning, but in 2020 its his own administration that is being decided, and voters are not happy with how its been. 

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    Forgot to mention that his tax plan actually f*cked over a lot of middle class supporters who initially voted for him while giving the wealthy a massive tax cut that is exploding the national deficit..... 

    Like the NUMBER ONE RULE OF PRESIDENTS WHO WANT TO GET RE-ELECTED is dont cause people to have to pay more in taxes if there isnt some sort of crisis or war going on to justify it..... The fact that he managed to screw that up after barely winning in 2016 to begin with almost seals his fate alone. 
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    Because it's a cycle, 8 years of dmeocrat rule takes on 8 years of Republican
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    Because it's a cycle, 8 years of dmeocrat rule takes on 8 years of Republican
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     a MASSIVE number of seats of the house flipped from red to blue

    Yeah,same with 2010 and 94, but they both won re-election
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    His approval ratings in close to every potential swing state has dropped
    I'm starting to think approval ratings don't matter or mean anything, especially since he won the 2016 election, despite losing the popular vote.

    The literally non-stop line of self inflicted controversies by Trump and his administration is leading to fatigue among his supporters from trying to defend his actions.
    At this point, all of the hatred towards Trump is getting old. I keep hearing the same old "trump is racist" stuff being spewed out and tossed around so much that it gets boring, so at this point, there's no way a bunch of random "controversies" are going to keep him from winning the 2020 election.

    The top performing Dem candidates regularly beat Trump in head to head nation-wide matchups
    Hillary Clinton was also widely favored more than Trump was, yet she still lost to him in the end, so a bunch of random candidates beating Trump in some random thing isn't going to hold Trump back.
    If Hillary Clinton couldn't beat Trump despite getting the popular vote, and despite the majority of places like California and New York disliking Donald Trump, then what makes you think anyone else can beat Trump?

    Like the NUMBER ONE RULE OF PRESIDENTS WHO WANT TO GET RE-ELECTED is dont cause people to have to pay more in taxes if there isnt some sort of crisis or war going on to justify it
    Most of the Democratic candidates also have crazy plans that will cause people to have to pay more in taxes, so this isn't exclusive to Donald Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA3b-omI5mE
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    Like the NUMBER ONE RULE OF PRESIDENTS WHO WANT TO GET RE-ELECTED is dont cause people to have to pay more in taxes if there isnt some sort of crisis or war going on to justify it..... 

    if this was an actual rule, then there is no way a tax and spend democrat could ever hope to win.
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    Hes more popular in swing states than on Election Day 2016. He just has to keep his opponent’s margin low now which will,be easy.
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    Figures that the four people who decide to respond all share the same brain cell 
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    I'm starting to think approval ratings don't matter or mean anything
    they don't, I disapprove of lots of things he says etc, however, for reasons I've given in other threads etc, he's the best choice (least objectionable) of the choices we are going to have.  It's not how I would have things, but this is the hand we are dealt. 

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    I think it's possible that Trump will be selected again. Though, I'm convinced that he's part of some dialectic. While liberals foam at the mouth at how terrible a president he is, they're running further and further into the socialist trap of Warren or Sanders. And to an unwitting populace who'd rather war over inconsequential bullshit like identity, equality, or entitlements, they become more unaware of the money and how it's being spent, transformed, and used against them.

    Regardless of your political affiliation, one thing is clear: politicians couldn't give a flying fuck about you. They care only for your money and how you can generate it for them--you're either an asset or a liability. And they'll use whichever convenient platitude--feminism, racialism, transgenderism, nationalism, etc.--if it means garnering your sympathies and having you trust them with your resources. Why force you onto a plantation and risk armed rebellion, when they can hoodwink you into indentured servitude and convince you that it was your idea?
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    Its not about the timing, you cant negotiaite with terrorists
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    Figures that the four people who decide to respond all share the same brain cell 

    Nice ad hominem
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    Its not about the timing, you cant negotiaite with terrorists

    Ending a conflict that has cost trillions of dollars over more than a decade is a good thing, not a bad thing.
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    Thats not how you end a conflict
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    I could agree with that. Donald Trump isn’t a politician as much as Warren, Sanders or anyone else for that matter. 

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    Nice ad hominem


    If you actually did literally any research at all and saw that Trump's popularity across swing states has declined dramatically, as I showed in the link I provided previously  that literally states right at the beginning that: "The president has sustained double-digit declines in net approval rate in nearly every state that could be considered a tossup, and more voters disapprove than approve of him in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Pennsylvania and Ohio that Trump won in 2016", then maybe your opinion would actually become more valuable to people then that of a rusty mailbox .

    Replying to a post with a single of an argument that by a quick glance is objectively false and easily disprovable doesnt earn you the opportunity to have your thoughts be respected or considered by others..... It earns you only ridicule, which is what is warranted in your case. 
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    Figures that the four people who decide to respond all share the same brain cell 

    Awwww, couldn't accept the fact that Republicans historically do better in midterms than Democrats, look at 02
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    Literally has nothing to do with anything but good job on making yourself look as stupid as I imply you are. You save a lot of work on my part by being a blissful idiot entirely of your own desire rather then make me have to work to bring it out of you. Saves everyone a lot of time and allows the adults to converse with each other more easily 
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    hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe, Beloved troll, heheheheheh be a better troll at least