The USE-CASE for GOVERNMENT - (GARF)

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There must be a moral framework which guides social interaction--preferably individualism.
How would you solve the "free-rider" problem?
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Have you ever heard of Koch Industries?
Yes. How is KI "highly centralized"?
A corporate structure is "highly centralized" by definition.
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And you don't think they'll just switch over to these guys when the government is eliminated?
Of course they would. (They employ mercenaries currently.) The difference is, "our" mode of interaction wouldn't be fundamentally codified by aggression. In the event they send their armies, they'd be the criminals. And "we" can respond accordingly.

hey are examples of what happens when government is crippled and or eliminated.

Can you supply any examples of a modern-day country that has a crippled government where "free-people-can-finally-thrive"??
A controlled modern day example? No. Government is everywhere.

That would be part of the deal.  If you want to be a police officer, or a mayor or a senator, or any kind of public-servant, you must record (body-cam) and gps yourself to a public blockchain (permanent record) for the extent of your public-service.

Everything you do is public knowledge.

This keeps bad journalists from being able to smear you, because any citizen can debunk a bad story by going directly to the source.
Public service is contingent on the deferment of authority. If people as you say are prone to mobster mentalities, what's to stop the public servants from using said authority to start a mutiny?

The article mentions that Sweden is highly transparent, so rules to mitigate future misconduct would likely be implemented.
How?

Well there are plenty of options for you to choose from, but you might have some trouble getting reliable electricity and internet service.

For example, [LINK]
They all fall within the jurisdiction of a government; therefore, they are not "options."

How would you solve the "free-rider" problem?
By admitting that there's no free-rider "problem."

A corporate structure is "highly centralized" by definition.
Unto itself, yes. But that's not the focus of our discussion.


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And you don't think they'll just switch over to these guys when the government is eliminated?
Of course they would. (They employ mercenaries currently.) The difference is, "our" mode of interaction wouldn't be fundamentally codified by aggression. In the event they send their armies, they'd be the criminals. And "we" can respond accordingly.
No government = No crime = Fend for your flipping self = Mobster-Ethics
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Can you supply any examples of a modern-day country that has a crippled government where "free-people-can-finally-thrive"??
A controlled modern day example? No. Government is everywhere.
Not really.

There are plenty of de facto lawless regions around the globe.

You could move to northern Australia for example.
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Everything you do is public knowledge.
Public service is contingent on the deferment of authority. If people as you say are prone to mobster mentalities, what's to stop the public servants from using said authority to start a mutiny?

How would they do that?  All laws (including new laws) would necessarily be logically coherent with the established PRIMARY AXIOMS.

Their duties would be clearly established.  If they neglected their duties or otherwise subverted their duties, they would be removed.  They would be constantly under public surveillance.

They would take a fiduciary oath of office.

An ombudsman (/ˈɒmbʊdzmən/, also US: /-bədz-, -bʌdz-/,[1][2][3] Swedish: [²ɔmːbʉːdsˌman]), ombudspersonombud, or public advocate is an official who is charged with representing the interests of the public by investigating and addressing complaints of mal-administration or a violation of rights. The ombudsman is usually appointed by the government or by parliament but with a significant degree of independence. In some countries, an inspector general, citizen advocate or other official may have duties similar to those of a national ombudsman and may also be appointed by a legislature. Below the national level, an ombudsman may be appointed by a state, local, or municipal government. Unofficial ombudsmen may be appointed by, or even work for, a corporation such as a utility supplier, newspaper, NGO, or professional regulatory body. [WIKI]
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How would you solve the "free-rider" problem?
By admitting that there's no free-rider "problem."
There's always a "free-rider" problem.

Does your perfect society care for orphans?

Does your perfect society care for the elderly?

Does your perfect society care for the mentally unstable?

These are all examples of "free-riders".
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No government = No crime
Substantiate this.


Not really.

There are plenty of de facto lawless regions around the globe.

You could move to northern Australia for example.
De facto is not the only concern. As long as the government, any government, has jurisdiction, it's not an "lawless" region.


Their duties would be clearly established.  If they neglected their duties or otherwise subverted their duties, they would be removed.  They would be constantly under public surveillance.
How? Take the United States for example. There are over two million military personnel, and over 800,000 police officers. If they decide to mutiny, who stops them? Who removes them?


There's always a "free-rider" problem.

Does your perfect society care for orphans?

Does your perfect society care for the elderly?

Does your perfect society care for the mentally unstable?

These are all examples of "free-riders".
Non sequitur. Never suggested "perfect." And I don't deny "free-riders"; I contend that it's not a problem.