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@Mopac
If you don't trust anyone other than yoursellf
That's obviously not true. I do trust others. I just acknowledge they are just as flawed as i am... if not more and possibly less. With that i tread carefully.
If you don't trust anyone other than yoursellf
That's obviously not true. I do trust others. I just acknowledge they are just as flawed as i am... if not more and possibly less. With that i tread carefully.
That's good. Present day you really, really, need humble and good people to run the Church. But no matter how hard anyone tries... a corrupted human will find their way to your church. I find it's a good thing you say your church is vigilant of such things. Evil never sleeps is a saying right.We have this sort of understanding built into the church.
"I'm a Christian because my parents are. What does that have to do with whether life was designed or not, philosophically?"
"I'd need to see the evidence to make a conclusion."
"It's A possibility but one without evidence to support it."
"I'm an 11th grader / junior in college taking an elective...I don't know what the multiverse or string theory is, but what do they have to do with philosophy or if there was a creator? Are we ever going to talk about Kant?"
Could this creator actually have been involved with designing the universe, or only limited to setting the stage for natural evolution?"Which creator again? Because you've not limited its powers, literally anything we can imagine, it can do. Or could have done if it were still around, can we know if it's still around?"
"How are the two connected, precisely? Evolution is biology, this is philosophy."
You see your problem...even you, a staunch ID must be taught in some capacity at public schools proponent, can't figure out a way to wring any education from the proposition. Any test answer could be "because it was designed that way," even the answer to "Why can't we find evidence of a creator?" As far as why I think atheists are critical thinkers, it's because every one I've met in real life arrived at atheism through rational thought, while the critical thinking Christians I know basically apologize for their Christianitiy, saying things like 'I know, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but still. This is how I was raised." As a result, they're forcing themselves to maintain belief out of comfort.
I might ask if they are Bible believing Christians (which would probably get me in trouble), or simply cultural Christians, similar to their ethnicity?
What would you consider evidence?
I might tell them a generic creator. Just to simply imagine a being wearing a yellow shirt with Creator written in black ink on the front.
I might ask them if they think for some reason evolution shouldn't be mentioned in a philosophy class?
No, I don't see any problem. And I can't think of anything in ID (or Christianity) that doesn't make sense.By the way, do you by chance recall how many times I've mentioned to you that I wasn't raised in Christianity? I unfortunately lost count.
That's good. Present day you really, really, need humble and good people to run the Church. But no matter how hard anyone tries... a corrupted human will find their way to your church. I find it's a good thing you say your church is vigilant of such things. Evil never sleeps is a saying right.
You would be lying if you made that claim considering there's no way for you to know. Trolls lie all the time, they'll say anything.True heaven is a lot better than whatever you imagine it to be. It is also a lot better than what you wish it would be instead.
Yes, you have made that abundantly evident with every post you make.The church is full of corrupted humans.
The good thing is that we have maintained doctrinal consistency since ancient times
The bad thing is that it takes a very long time for even good and necessary things to get done.
True heaven is a lot better than whatever you imagine it to be. It is also a lot better than what you wish it would be instead.
No one "knows" Jesus you moron, everyone only knows what's written in Scriptures. which you seem to completely ignore. And, the church is a cesspool, just like you described and just like you think.I don't believe you know Jesus or the church.
The Church is a cesspool of human ignorance, violence and hatred, it has nothing to do with Christ.The Church is The Body of Christ
you will find the corruptability of human nature present in the church.
Depending on how "heaven" is defined... this is a mercy.suffering that comes with dying for eternity
Heaven is mercy.Hell is torment.