I think Iran is no different that Israel, Saudi Arabia or America. They are trying to push for their interests. They want power and influence in the region, no different than Saudi Arabia or the US. But the Saudi's and the US government want that power for themselves, so they attack Iran.
is that what I said? how about some honesty on your part?
has the regime stopped those atrocities? arrested or punished those who have and continue to commit them?
ahhh ok, so how about we use diplomacy with murderers in the U.S. and we can house them next door to you? How about that?
oh let's ask, pretty please stop burning people, killing gays, raping women etc, maybe that would work, or we'll pay you not to do those horrible things, or punish those who do these things, think that would work?
diplomacy with barbaric criminals, that's awesome.
He’s a freakin terrorist.
You saying there’s no evidence is blatant hypocrisy for what Obama did.
Do you have any idea the type of government you’re defending?
They want to perform a genocide. You’re ok with that?
burning people alive, throwing gays off of roofs etc, you are correct I don't see them as human
Because that is where we are headed.
They want to perform a genocide. You’re ok with that?
No, and if they tried to do so, we would obviously have to do something about that. They haven't tried to do so.
you may have some sort of warped compassion for people who burn other alive and do the things I've listed, but I don't, they are subhuman imo who don't deserve the treatment a slaughter house animal gets, they deserve worse.
any idea how many times that's been said, even before the cold war?
A general was killed by a (the) super power. Is that worth starting a war you have NO chance to win or survive? Over a dead terrorist general?
Let's be real here. The U.S. could level that country and they must know this given what happened in Iraq etc.
They can bitch and moan all they like about his death, but to actually do something would seem counterproductive for them and counterintuitive to a logical, rational perspective.
Let's pretend you control Iran, you seem fairly level headed, what would you do?
yeah? quote where I said the whole government, they are complicent for certain because they either condone, ignore or encourage these atrocities.You are then using that to paint the government and this specific general as sub-human.
That is bigotry.
America talks a big game about how they will throw their weight around, then they get stuck in a brutal war.
Anyone who knows anything about the region or diplomatic relations at all knows that Iran has no choice but to counter attack.
As long as america continues to call them evil
so you don't think they would use this technology and bombs for terrorism?
Why are the other countries not wanting Iran to have these bombs/technology?
I generally dislike most of those in the U.S. government past and present.
It is a vicious circle of every country has a right to their hydrogen bomb for the security and the resultant is going to be, some day humanity is going to die off from nuclear annihilation and that is the end-of-game, and not necessarily what you call end-of-game just because Iran joins the nuclear club of players.
yeah? quote where I said the whole government, they are complicent for certain because they either condone, ignore or encourage these atrocities.
I didn't know government bigotry was a thing, but if it is, I'll accept that moniker and wear it proudly. Gays are people too.
America talks a big game about how they will throw their weight around, then they get stuck in a brutal war.that's true
so they really don't want diplomacy or peace then, but rather they will escalate the situation.
They could cut their losses and restart/reboot but you rightfully believe they won't and instead will further violence and escalate the situation. Does that sound rational to you, like someone you could reach with diplomacy?
I think burning people in cages (all the stuff I've already said) is pretty evil, don't you?
let me rephrase, imagine you ruled Iran, what would you do to the U.S. in this situation based on what you know?
Iran getting a nuclear weapon is not necessarily 'end-of-game' as you stated.hopefully that day is tomorrow, let's just get it over with.
They did want peace.
They attacked American troops for years. Peace my a**.
They want to get rid of Israel and we’re in the way.
Unless you support an extinction of the Jewish State, then you can’t negotiate with them.
They bomb weddings, funerals, markets etc all the time.
You discriminating against an entire group of people for actions done by a subset of that group.
I would hope we both agree that going to war with Iran would be a bad thing.
They have no choices left but to attack.
So is drone striking a wedding or a funeral.
Iran getting a nuclear weapon is not necessarily 'end-of-game' as you stated.
in what context? collateral damage is a reality of war/violence, burning people in cages etc is not, it's rather disturbing you'd try to justify and equate those 2 thing, you should re-evaluate your line of thinking.
I'm discriminating against people who kill gays etc either by action or inaction, if that makes me a bigot so be it.
wow, there is always a choice, just because it's one you don't like doesn't mean it's not available to you, seriously, come on, geez.
can you give an example where a random wedding or funeral was purposefully targeted by the U.S.?
When trump carries out an attack that will escalate violence you defend it.
Oh i understand, so when the US massacres women and children that is just the way of the world, but if Iran does that they are evil sub-humans that deserve to die. Glad to see I am talking to a reasonable human being.
The Sunday night operation in Musa Qala district targeted a house near the wedding party used by the Taliban to train suicide bombers, including foreigners, Afghan defense officials said.The accident comes a week after a US drone strike on suspected "Islamic State" militants killed 30 civilians and injured 40 others as they were collecting pine nuts in a forest.
you defend or justify burning people in cages, killing gays and I'm the one not reasonable?
And america was attacking them at the same time. Why do you pretend like this is one sided?
I'm sure the Saudi's would love that too. But they are US allies and not "evil".
That is incredibly dumb. The only way to convince them to stop trying to do that would be to negotiate. Ramping up tension only increases the violence and hate. Ruling out negotiating is guaranteeing violence and war.
When trump carries out an attack that will escalate violence you defend it.did I? you seem to interject a lot of what you assume and think into what I write, you really should stop doing that.
you defend or justify burning people in cages, killing gays and I'm the one not reasonable? LOL why do you hate gays, they are people just like the rest of us.
Trump wasn't president in 2009, do you know who was?from that very short link it sounds like these were not women and children and they were, infact targeting the militants in that funeral.
I've previously brought up collateral damage. It's a sad reality.
So let me get this straight. They attack us first and we’re just supposed to sit there?
If you’re equating the United States to Iran then go live in Iran lmao. See how similar they are for yourself, you’d be surprised.
Prove that they want to get rid of Israel and have been actively trying to get rid of the state. You can’t because they haven’t ever since the US got in the picture.
American allies deserve to be protected, that’s how it works. It’s us vs them.
In war, civilian targets banned under the Geneva Conventions, and we try our best to avoid it. It’s a war zone, it’s a risk, and sometimes mistake do happen.
But these Iranians and their proxies purposefully target civilians. That’s the difference between us and them.
You have yet to answer my question regarding what YOU would do. I’m assuming you would sit around and do nothing while American soil is attacked and American lives are in danger.
Makes sense, you support Hillary Clinton.
Oh and we did negotiate, they did nothing.
A religious dictatorship is incompatible and nothing like American democracy yet you are quick to compare American and Iranian actions.
The man killed 600 American troops and wounded thousands. He deserved to die if you support America.
Which is why I think it was incredibly stupid for Trump to force Iran's hand.
drone strikes that hit civilian targets. But it is Iran that is evil?
They just keep on murdering and murdering and murdering and they just do not care.
They carried out an airstrike on a wedding and your reaction is basically that you don't give a shit.
I'm not sure that is how it happened or what he did. Are you certain this wasn't in defense of U.S. citizens?
context and intent is key which I've already explained and you are still trying to defend.
you mean what they do to the gays, Christians etc? yeah I agree
They carried out an airstrike on a wedding and your reaction is basically that you don't give a shit.if you think that is my reaction you should stop trying to judge people with your assumptions because you really suck at it.
