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@Speedrace
You can be targeted for a roleblock and a night kill at the same time I suppose but grey is saying he was roleblocked?
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Not sure what she is saying with this.
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Drafterman [1/6] Lunatic
Speedrace [1/6] Singularity

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@Greyparrot
I think failed and blocked mean the same thing to Supa

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hmmm, so there's a roleblocker too. I won't be very active today cause I'm going out to eat.
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yo I just reread Nightless Mafia by FT and me vs drafter (TGAP) in that was hilarious when also considering this game. https://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/28126/1#2176874

I have a bunch of posts queued up and I'll post them as soon as I return.
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@Vader
I think failed and blocked mean the same thing to Supa

Good question. Do they?
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@Greyparrot
yes they do
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Not sure whether to be sus of singularity's reaction to speed's roleblock. Seems a very weird thing to try and pin speed for, and if GP was also blocked it could mean singularity is a jailkeep. If this is the case, then that means characters were assigned randomly most likely, with no discrimination between scum and town based on character descriptions.
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Just to clarify, this post of mine https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3491/post_links/147066 was in reference to this post of oro https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3491/south-park-mafia-dp2?page=11&post_number=258, where he pinged me and I was surprised by the content, not having read the previous few pages yet. At that time I was not aware the day ended.

irontoaster
> Activity has no bearing on affiliation
bullshit, activity has big time bearing on aff. Scum are more likely to be inactive to avoid scum slipping and because a lot of people don't like playing scum. In my past experiences inactive policy lynches have also tended to work out in favor of town.

drafterman
> What if the three main characters are the mafia? 🤔
see you are clearly OPEN to using emojis.

Also this statement just went unexplained, like wtf?

drafterman
> Also, I tried to vig Bullish last night and it failed.
bruh

oromagi
> Hey, Pie.  If you are town you will make some kind of claim now.
why the fuck would he do that hes copped inno

Also Pie's role as-described is a deflector

drafterman
> This is my problem with your proposal. If it is a slip and a mistake, then it is also a coincidence. It can't be not a coincidence AND a mistake.
Jesus why are you being delibrately dense this whole game. Something can 100% be a mistake and not a coincidence.

oromagi
> I wonder what Bullish thinks of this turn of events?
I think you and drafter are scum and pie needs to confirm with the mod how his role works. Also I have no idea why he vig on me failed.

(this reply is no longer what I think)

SupaDudz
> An escort works in this way

> I choose _____, and any NP action against the person will be on ___( different person)____
Oh ok so pie is big time confirmed then.

Also this means single's watch was actually on drafter and no one visited drafter.

SupaDudz
> There are many ways the escort is used and worded
No there aren't, you're literally the only mod to have ever used escort not as a synonym for hooker. https://town-of-salem.fandom.com/wiki/Escort

lmao. Time stamps too.

oromagi
> DP3 = claim convincingly or hang
I was planning on anyway. see my next post and respond accordingly.

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Drafter vigging was a joke
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@Speedrace
Drafter vigging was a joke
<br>
What?
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yo I just reread Nightless Mafia by FT and me vs drafter (TGAP) in that was hilarious when also considering this game. https://www.debate.org/forums/games/topic/28126/1#2176874
Nightless and this game, the interaction between myself and drafter are basically mirrors.

I opened both games with essentially random scum reads that I presented as certain. Then I proceeded to tunnel one of them (YYW in nightless, drafter in this game).


Nightless, Drafter tunneled me the entire game. He said he'd "eat my hat if both F16 and Bullish are town". We were both town.
This game I'm tunnelling drafter hardcore similarly.

And some other examples...
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@Speedrace
I realize that now.
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oro are you vanilla? my claim hinges on your answer.
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Drafter is TOWN and I'm dropping all scum accusations against him (not the making-no-sense accusations tho).
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@Lunatic
Wait I thought I was scum protecting toaster my Uber powerful scum partner?
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Y'all do whatever you want. I'm not going to spend the whole day again trying to prevent a mislynch for you idiots to just go ahead and it it anyway.
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@Lunatic
But I'm not getting lynched today either.

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no nightkill.  Singularity offers a plausible explanation that is not countered by anybody, which strengthens both Singularity & GPs claim.

Speed now admits to lying about being a DREAMER (often a scummie claim anyway) and now claims BP.
Speed now claims to be the nightkill target which contradicts Singularity.
Speed fingers GP in spite of GP's strengthening claim.
Speed offers no explanation for failed COP on Speed.

Speed's credibility is suspect for roleclaim change.  Offers no explanation for why a BP would claim DREAMER (and therefore commit to lying to town).  Speed points to a prior post and suggests breadcrumbing but that post only justifies some lies as town and does not BC BP.

Speed's town cred is shot and I think we should lynch with high confidence.

VTL Speedrace


TOWN
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9. Oromagi                                    Randy Marsh
8. iLikePie5              1XESCORT  Chef                    
X. Virtuoso              VANILLA        Mr. Mackey        
X. Irontoaster          VANILLA        Towelie
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10. Greyparrot           COP             Cartman              Pie                         Speed (X)
11. Singularity          JOAT              Butters                 GP=>Drafter(X)     DocGP
                                 2XDOC
                                 2XWTCHR   
 3. Drafterman           VANILLA       Mr. Garrison        
4. WaterPhoenix      VANILLA       Token
2. PressF                 (noclaim)
7. Bullish                 (noclaim)     
1. Lunatic                                       Kyle
5. SpeedRace          DREAMER    Stan                  
                                 (nowait, BP)      
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Drafterman [1/6] Lunatic
Speedrace [2/6] Singularity, oromagi


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Daily reminder: At least 2 scum among grey, singulary, lunatic, bullish
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@drafterman
Daily reminder: At least 2 scum among grey, singulary, lunatic, bullish

That's based on voting?

If true, I guess I'm clear how I interpret this range.  Grey & Singularity full claimed early & announced two actions apiece without contradiction.  Lunatic and Bullish haven't claimed.
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@oromagi
Are you vanilla? answer me.
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@Bullish
I know why scum would want to know this.  I'm not clear why town would be so insistent.


What's your rationale?

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@Singularity
Why did you Watch GP NP1 instead of protecting him?
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@oromagi
I'm going to claim a power role that may determine your affiliation but it depends on knowing if you are vanilla or not before I claim.
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@Lunatic
Why would scum target dreamer over the cop?
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I'm going to reread the DPs for behaviour now that we finally have a town-directed flip.

I buy myself, grey, drafter, pie and speed as town.

The wagons, roughly in order of votes:

Water - Singularity, Greyparrot, Bullish, Lunatic, drafterman, PressF
drafter - Bullish, GreyParrot, Singularity, Lunatic, oromagi, Water
iron (x) - Lunatic, GreyParrot, Bullish, Singuarity, ILikePie, Oro

Myself, GreyParrot, Singularity, and Lunatic are the only people even pushing wagons.
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@Bullish
I'm going to claim a power role that may determine your affiliation but it depends on knowing if you are vanilla or not before I claim.


I am VANILLA.  You have a go.