Sanders Surging

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    Bernie Sanders is having a huge surge. The national average shows the gap between Biden and Sanders closing significantly.

    The average for Iowa shows Sanders leading (i believe within the margin of error).

    The average for New Hampshire shows sanders really leading

    There hasn't been much polling for Nevada lately, but the 2 done in early January (before his big surge) show biden and sanders almost statistically tied with 1 point and 5 points between them. 

    Sanders is well placed to win 2 or even 3 of the first 4 states. 

    With Sanders leading in California and the only Texas poll in the last 2 months showing Biden and Sanders statistically tied in Texas (sorry the link for the poll itself appears to be down at the moment so here is the average page). Sanders is also well placed to do well on super tuesday too.
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    And all he had to do was say that women can't be president. Then everyone realized "Yeah, they can't. Let's vote for a man instead". And now he is surging and she is dropping. Clear causation.
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    And all he had to do was say that women can't be president. Then everyone realized "Yeah, they can't. Let's vote for a man instead". And now he is surging and she is dropping. Clear causation.
    lol no. everyone saw that Warren is a political backstabber. That definitely hurt warren.

    But in alot of these polls biden is down some, Butigieg is down by alot in some of them. It isn't just warren's people Sanders is picking up. 


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    The only hope the DNC has at stopping Bernie is to chain him to the Senate for an elongated impeachment trial.
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    --> @bmdrocks21
    And all he had to do was say that women can't be president. Then everyone realized "Yeah, they can't. Let's vote for a man instead". And now he is surging and she is dropping. Clear causation.

    Nice joke lol.

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    The only hope the DNC has at stopping Bernie is to chain him to the Senate for an elongated impeachment trial.
    Even that isn't working. Bernie's surge has been happening while he has been stuck in the senate. Bernie has a super strong ground game. He also has strong surrogates out campaigning for him (AOC, Michael moore etc)

    I don't think the establishment Dems have any method they can use to stop bernie. He has risen so much they can't just ignore him. And attacking him doesn't work either because people trust Sanders more than they trust corporate media outlets. 


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    Their only potential tactic to tank Bernie would be a Hillary endorsement lmao
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    Thanks, lol

    :^)
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    Their only potential tactic to tank Bernie would be a Hillary endorsement lmao
    lol i've seen them try to do something like that. I think it was a CNN segment where they tried to argue he was "washington insider" because he has been a senator for years. 

    You know CNN is out of ideas when they feel like painting a candidate as an experienced legislator is somehow an attack. I mean, most of their audience would probably think that is a good thing. The people who would think that is a bad thing aren't watching CNN anyway. 
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    Or a Fox endorsement.
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    Who is CNN backing?

    And yeah, it's weird that being qualified for the position has become a mark against applicants.
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    Who is CNN backing?
    CNN compliments any of the corporatist candidates. They are pretty easy on Biden. They constantly faun over Butigieg and Klobachar. They are pretty light on Warren too. Just an edit here, they also loved Kamela, Booker and Beto before they flamed out. 

    They constantly bash Sanders, Yang and Tulsi. 

    And yeah, it's weird that being qualified for the position has become a mark against applicants.
    They understand that being an outsider is a big appeal for alot of people. So they want to make it seem like Sanders isn't an outsider candidate to try to push some of his supporters towards other candidates that have no shot at winning. 

    But yeah, it's really weird to see them do this. 
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    Oh no no no no, not bernie please no. Dude is like 50x worse than biden.
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    Oh no no no no, not bernie please no. Dude is like 50x worse than biden.
    lol in what way? Biden is awful. 


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    Biden is awful and is probably high when he's debating about how weed should be legalized, but I already told you about how bernie will die halfway through his term and literally wants to make America into a giant refugee camp.
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    Isn't CNN a corporation?
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    If you skim through the democratic candidate's campaign sites every single one of them has "will beat donald trump" as one of their main points lol.

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    Biden is awful and is probably high when he's debating about how weed should be legalized
    nah he's just really old and losing it. 

     I already told you about how bernie will die halfway through his term
    lol the guy still plays baseball. he has more energy than half the people running. 

    and literally wants to make America into a giant refugee camp.
    I have no words. I mean this makes no sense. 
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    Isn't CNN a corporation?
    yep. Their wealthy news castors are fighting hard to protect the interests of their corporate overlords. 


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    nah he's just really old and losing it. 
    *lost it
    lol the guy still plays baseball. he has more energy than half the people running. 
    eh hes still old af
    I have no words. I mean this makes no sense. 
    "Bernie supports a family-based immigration system grounded in civil and human rights. Bernie believes we must stand up for our values and accept refugees, asylum-seekers, and families who come to the United States in search of the American Dream. This is how America was built and it has made our country strong." from his campaign site



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    scroll down to "Supporting and Strengthening Immigrants in America"

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    lol it should say illegals
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    nah he's just really old and losing it. 
    *lost it

    He's still coherent at least half the time. so i'd say "losing" is the accurate term

    eh hes still old af
    ok. what's your point. He has more energy than most of the people running. He's also the best placed to beat trump. 

    from his campaign site
    what is your point? America already takes migrants and refugees. Why do you think this is a significant departure from what happens now?
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     He's also the best placed to beat trump. 
    debateable 
    what is your point? America already takes migrants and refugees. Why do you think this is a significant departure from what happens now?
    just scroll down to that place im not copying and pasting like that many words.


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    He's also the best placed to beat trump. 
    debateable 
    Anyone who regularly votes dem will turn out to beat trump. Plus he brings in alot of new people. young people, people who are sick of the corruption and greed of the neo-lib controlled establishment dems. 

    None of the other candidates are going to do that. (maybe yang or tulsi, but they can't win at this point). Biden will get the core dem base and then alot of people will stay home. He will lose just like hilary. 

    just scroll down to that place im not copying and pasting like that many words.
    If you aren't going to bother making a point then we can drop it.