How is it inconsistent that He warns you of the consequences and you understand them yet you choose to ignore them?
If god makes someone like Adam or you knowing you'd do evil, you do not have free will at all.
Did Adam have a mind to choose? Did he choose? I would argue that Adam had free will but our wills are influenced by many factors so they are not free, nevertheless, we choose. IOW's, you have a mind that is and has been influenced by sin. It is no longer a spiritual mind that has an intimate relationship with God. Thus, the Bible calls such a mind as a natural man. You do what is natural to a sinful mind, you reject God, you have animosity with God which is evident from your opposition to Him. You fight Him on every side. Thus, Jesus taught a man (person) must be born against to see or enter the kingdom of heaven.
Even though Adam had a will to choose God knew what his choice would be for He said,
17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”
Did God choose for Adam? No, Adam chose himself. Did God warn Adam of the consequences of his choice? Yes. Did Adam die on that day? Yes, he died spiritually to God. He no longer had that intimate relationship with God and neither do we unless we are restored to such a relationship by faith in the Second Adam - Jesus.
It's as simple as that. If you choose to repent or not doesn't surprise god. He can't be mad if he can't be surprised, and he can't be surprised because he knew what you'd do the second he made you, and he knows if you'll be sorry about it or not.
Again, why can't He be mad? He wants what is best for humanity but human beings have a will. Sin is evil. It is wrong. How could a just and righteous God want what is wrong? (Answer: He can't)
Even though He knew and knows what each would do, He made you and gave you a will, a volition to choose. He lets you make choices. Those choices are not guided by His light and understanding when we act in our own accord since we are relative, subjective beings. With the Fall, that volition humanity was given has been influenced in a negative way, a way that does both evil and good.
Grace is not getting what you deserve but what you do not deserve.
In this way, grace is the opposite of justice according to you.
How can that be? Jesus willingly paid the penalty that those who believe in Him deserve(d). Thus, justice was met in Him. Will God judge us twice (double jeopardy) for the same crime? How is that just? No, He is
satisfied with what the Son has done. He willingly met all the righteous standards of God on behalf of the believer. He gracefully gave Himself for us. He did not have to do that but God, in Jesus, chooses to do that because He is a God of love.
Did he receive the same that he gave in terms of harm and hurt and evil?
Not remotely, but he's dead. That's the end of that story. Well, unless he said really sorry, Jesus, and now he's on Jesus's yacht full of 14 year old girls in heaven, right?
You confuse and embellish Christianity with Islamic teaching or rewarding the believer with virgins. Where is the promise of 14-year-old girls on a yacht found in Christianity?
if things just happen why do you believe tomorrow will be like today and why should things hold together as they have in the past? Can you answer that instead of talking around it?
That's what they've always done.
If there is no intention behind the universe and no mind sustaining it then why do you believe that what was done in the past will be done in the present or future?
We as Christians have surety in God. He has promised that as long as the earth remains
springtime and harvest will remain.
I don't spend literally any time, not one second, wondering if tomorrow will be like today. It won't, it's a totally different day. I don't get this question. Let me guess, is the answer "Jesus, ha, I made sense of a big question"?
And that is a problem of inconsistency with your worldview if you took the time to understand it. There are constants. You naturally assume that the sun will continue to shine, that the earth will continue to revolve, the tides continue with ebb and neap, the gravitational pull remains constant, the seasons continue to change, that these things will "act" or function every year of your life, but by what means? By blind indifferent chance happenstance, you believe that all these constants will remain as you have witnessed them or have knowledge of them. The sun will continue to shine, the earth continue to rotate, the tides continue to roll, the seasons continue to change from one to the other.
Change your "fittest" to "bare minimum" and you will start to understand evolution a little more.
There are some big assumptions there like we all evolve from a common ancestor.
Hitler, again, good grief you guys love that one.
That example is one of the most widely documented examples I could give.
Strange that someone we all agree was entirely evil, who perpetrated such heinous crimes against God's chosen people, that god made him do that...
How did God make him? He chose to do it of his own accord. He ignored the true interpretation of God's word. He did his own thing is disobedience to what God said was good.
And also that god didn't step in and help on his own, but needed five years worth of war and millions of lives lost to get rid of him.
Again, God has a purpose for allowing evil. It is a witness to what happens when people live lives apart from God's good counsel. Evil is a reminder to us of what happens when relative, subjective human beings live life without the guidance of God. But to some who witness it, they cry out to God for relief from such evil, realizing they themselves are also to blame and that they have also done evil. God provides a way of escape for those who truly seek Him.
Why not just miracle his ass out of there?
Because there is a lesson to be learned. Miracles do not solve the problem of evil. The problem of evil is that human beings want to do what is not good. You can warn your child not to touch the hot stove but they make their own decision. Do they listen to their parents and get spared from being burned or do they
go against their parent's best intentions?
Or, better idea, don't make him to do that in the first place.
Then he would be a robot, a programmed machine, without the capacity to freely love.
Like look at the plans for your Hitler and say "Whoops, wait a minute, if I make this guy exactly this way, he's going to kill six million jews, plus a ton of other non jews, like CHristians! Maybe I should take another look at this design, yeesh, that was a close one!"
As I said, God has allowed evil, allowed the freedom to choose, for a purpose, that some will find Him and love Him as He loves them. In fact, the love God has for us joyfully
exceeds all our limited human understanding.
