Bloodline Day Phase 1

Quit going for the easy lynch

Whelp...hope town has protective roles to keep Buddha alive for 3 days...

No one protect him. Even if he can be confirmed, he isn't yet. I'd rather have him die than someone who has an active role.

Omg, a role that doesnt neatly fit with a character! That's like, never happened before! 😂. 

😂😂

and you use them so much dude wtf

Fmpov if you aren't willing to follow up pressure via votes with lynching if that pressure is refused, then you might as well not demand claims at all cause the incentive is no longer there to otherwise claim. 

And then at that point, you may as well just VTNL DP1 from the get-go and not bother with it. 

Btw, how about we not VTNL on DP1? It wastes a whole lynch, like always. 7 v 2? Lynch every DP and you have 2 lynches before LYLO. VTNL and you only have 1 lynch until MYLO. 

DP1 lynch = 💯

Don't be ridiculous. under normal circumstances, you are right...but this is RM. It's a wasted mislynch for town when we can do better things.

Any mislynch is a waste of resources.  But think, would you rather mislynch RM or someone else?

Revealing characters helps mafia narrow down PRs more than it helps us.

I can agree with this, I'm not one to push claims unless I want to kill them, and I think most theme analysis is pointless. 

Despite what I just said about "not going for the easy lynch", I'd rather lynch RM than lynch nobody

Well he claimed at L-1, so following thru with a lynch on that refusal was unnecessary. But you at least reached the point where i explained why the lynch might be necessary. 

No idea, I'm page 3

Vaarka's silence could just be that he hasn't made it online yet. However, if the day passes and he still doesn't post, it's gonna be sus cause he was one of the players urging Lunatic(TUF) to start the game. 

Yeah I did, I quoted exactly what you did in response to you saying all you've seen was me saying Rational should claim, and Rational telling me to kindly go off myself 😂. 

So i deleted the post cause it was unnecessary. 

Isn't there a rule against editing or deleting posts? If not then there seriously needs to be one. 

Its important to stress that Rational is sus to me at this point, but he's still pretty much null from a non-vibe standpoint. His behavior fmpov cpuld reaaonably be coming from a town or scum. His pressure on those who are pressuring him, aka "omgus"("omg u suck") voting, is in line with his general behavior of retaliatory voting in response to people voting him. 

His thematic post that was, at best, less than entirely relevant, could be a town player being overzealous with contributing show knowledge, even if that knowledge might not be totally relevant. 

His paranoia of disclosing too much info to mafia by hypothesizing as to potential roles definite villain characters might be justified as having, though it doesn't make sense fmpov, is kind of in line with Rationals natural propensity towards such paranoia. Paranoia not to be taken in the negative sense, as townies should have a healthy dose of paranoia in acting. 

 

This final point though, is what moves him into sus territory. Because as I pointed out, refusing to hypothesize only really benefits mafia, as they already know their roles. Being willing to acknowledge he could ultimately still be town, operating in a manner that is benefits exclusively scum, as illustrared by the final point, is more than sufficient reason for a claim. 

Basically, the reason for claim is no longer exclusively him illustrating he is less than stellar at faking claims(beginners 1.2). We now have a sus behavior to back that up. 

Nope, that discussion stalled out and no concensus was met on it. And why would there necessarily need to be? If you can't think of numerous reasons why editing or deleting might otherwise be done with good intent(sich as not having redundant posts) that's your own fault, not anyone elses 😂. 

... what?

Who gives a shit if you're "deleting a redundant post" or "just fixing a typo"? You shouldn't do it. There's no way of knowing, after all, if the post you sent me had some sort of scum tell, and you realized and edited or deleted it. 

The entire point of players being prohibited from editing posts is to prevent that. Don't just pass it off with "haha OMG LOOOOL" shit, it's a serious thing. I even advocated for making it a mod-killable offense when we were working on the first beginner game. If Lunatic didn't make it a rule, then he should have. 

I know any games I mod will have a mod-killable consequence if such an action is reported, caught, seen, whatever. If it happens then it's a problem that I don't want to see. I'd hope everyone could see that. 

You give this reason for him being sus but "he's still pretty much null".