Schools shouldn't fund the sports over the arts

Oh no I agree that the education system is F**king terrible! I just also disagree with your assertion that they shouldn't teach more. I want a total upheaval of the current system, but that new system should have arts and sports. Also, while I agree, it's also a good idea to actually... CITE your research. Not doing so makes you look really trolly.

OK then, since ten seconds is to much for you to verify what I am saying. This link took 3 seconds the amount of time to type the search. https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/65-public-school-8th-graders-not-proficient-reading-67-not-proficient 2 more seconds https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/02/28/with-80-percent-of-public-school-graduates-unable-to-read-nyc-mayor-kicks-700-kids-out-of-charter-schools-n1802224 2 more seconds https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/half-children-primary-school-unable-read-and-write-performance-tables-education-literacy-numeracy-a7477386.html I could go on for days.

DId you.... not read anything but what you wanted to me to say? "Gosh! By jolly this man is WRONG!! And it's all because he doesn't list his sources! I suppose he is WRONG." No, that's not what I said, I said I agreed, and that next time, just list your sources. Let's not even mention that you dropped half of my argumentation. Do you not have a proper rebuttal?

The research isn't my thing right now, but, just by general observation [ I grew up in Brentwood [an affluent LA suburb where both pro sports and actors reside] I'd say pro athletes have a higher average income than the average actor. And you can probably count on two hands the actors who earn the income that many more pro athletes pull down.

I read what you said. It is your claim that sports and arts helps to improve over all education and success of a child. Then you posted a bunch of sources to back up your claim. Then I said your sources are rebuked by the facts and statistics.  Sports and arts are part of education now and student  competence is lower than it has ever been in the history of education. You agree schools suck but then stick with the idea that sports and arts help. It clearly doesn't. The statistics prove it.

Then that's faulty reasoning, a non-sequitur if you will. I never said art and reading improve education. I argued they improved the teens in general, and the society they grew into. Arts and sports aren't the cause of the incompetency, that's most likely the faulty teaching style. Which is all your sources prove. 

While I disagree with Sadolite because I'm a very socialised-education type of person politically and wish loans almost didn't exist (but the social democracies that have loans actually make you pay it back very, very slowly in a reasonable way), I agree with the notion that if we are to run schools as a preparation for working in the Capitalist business-centric world, we are not supposed to teach children the arts.

I do not agree that sports should be removed and I am saying this as the type of dude who was not athletic and was picked near-last for teams in group vs group scenarios. I'm just saying that sports are undeniably better and more necessary than the arts if we are talking about what children need to learn and do at school regardless of their upbringing and home life. Arts are unfair regardless of the passion one feels inside because you may love acting, singing, painting, instruments etc but your genre and/or style is not suited at all to the strict curriculum. Arts can't be sufficiently taught as an educational regimented thing in schools but they can be flexibly taught in specialised university classes and perhaps for 16-18 year-olds they should be made available but not for 14-16 or younger to any significant degree. There should instead be a period in the day called 'structural recreation' where artistic pupils are free to go to a free-form acting thing run as a club and a lot of extra-curriciular activities that are relatively free or cheap for students to partake in should be available in any school, public or not. This is very important because it allows the people drawn to the arts to engage in the arts and those who aren't drawn to it to not be forced to waste time doing them. Sports help health for any student. There is no student who sports are bad for but there are some special needs that will make it more complex to provide sports for students, just as with any subject vs special needs students.

Teaching them to read write and do math does more "IN GENERAL" You are just splitting hairs now. Social experimentation should be done, Have a certain number of schools just teach what needs to be taught and spend all money to that goal and well we already have the arts and sports combined with learning to read write and do math experiment going on now. I bet the essential education only students would blow the doors off the sports and arts students. Entertain yourself on your own time and your own dime. If you thought it was worth it you would pay for it or find donors. I am disgusted by the education system and it doesn't deserve the money it gets now.

"I bet the essential education only students would blow the doors off the sports and arts students"

Hitchen's razor can be applied here, that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed similarly without it.

I already agreed, the current education system is terrible, I would bet we think so for different reasons.

I lean towards funding neither.

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But on another hand, individuals and families sometimes have dreams of careers in certain fields.

Such as Sports, or Arts.

And I 'think people are 'most adaptable and moldable when they are young.

It doesn't seem right that people should be 'prevented from some careers, because of being poor.

I still feel more evenhanded about it,

Such classes should be 'equally funded according to demand,

On a year to year basis, not funded 'before people show interest, and people 'forced into said classes to fill them out.

Additionally, with AI and cameras, it should be 'more possible than ever for multiple 'smaller classes to exist and be monitored.

As another thread argued, teachers at times are audiobooks.

People with an 'interest, are self motivated.

Failure to pass tests, or observation of failed self study, can result in being removed from said class.

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I'm not sure sports uniforms and equipment needs to be 'new.

Why even bother 'with some parts of sports uniforms, just wear an X color shirt to the game.

Why top grade art equipment? Lot of paper can be reused or stored for future use if only one side is used.

Why need store bought clay, get clay from the river, school trip.