Star Control Mafia DP TWO

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@skittlez09
Now you made me hungry at 12am. Curse you
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Vanilla?
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@Vader
yeh
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Got it. Thanks
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@Vader
Now you made me hungry at 12am. Curse you
ha ha 
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@skittlez09
Now you have to change your PFP to The Hacker because of that pure evil act 
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@Vader
touche 
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@Vader
wait lemme get a better pic 
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@Vader
there ya go 
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Mad lad
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@oromagi
Imagine had User not died. He would have been a perfect easy mislynch later for scum based on his actions, and being a non-testable role. Not that I think we would have ever settled on a different lynch in DP1.

I honestly suspect your OMGUS over reaction yesterday, to be gaming for a mislynch on me later. Today starting with a vote on me, is however fair, as I'm a decent target for any scum pool.

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That said, with Pie's role reveal, my guess as to the theme is completely shot.


TOWN                             Role                 SPECIES                     SHIP             Notes
x) Warren42                  HIDER             Spathi                         Discriminator
6) iLikePie5                   Jailkeeper   Ur-Quan Kzer-Za    Dreadnaught
9) User_2006                BPROOF        Yehat                           Terminator
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5) oromagi
1) SupaDudz                 VANILLA        Zok Fot Pik                Stinger
4) Ragnar
2) LittleCookie08        VANILLA        Human                        Cruiser
3) PressF4Respect
7) Speedrace
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@Vader
Sure there might be 2 mafia in this game, but we all know who the REAL scum are.

#MafiaGate
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Can you lmk why you suspect Ragnar again? I’m not questioning you in a negative way, but I simply forgot your reasoning behind it
early in the game, Ragnar unvoted User saying we had lots of time.  After User claims bulletproof, no CC,  and immediately after Ragnar's second game begins (knowing that Ragnar is pressed for time today, he likely decided to take larger risks in one game to economize his time sucks), Ragnar decides to do User in

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Next time you play, I suggest being a bit of a lurker (just not a pure lurker).

Also if you're not scum this time, I hope you get to be one soon; as it's an important perspective in understanding the game.

As a hypothetical imagine you're scum, and I just outed myself as Bulletproof. You now know not to target me. Similarly, if I out myself as Vanilla, I'm also a waste to target (less so than bulletproof, but still not ideal). Imagine then that Speed and Press also out themselves as Vanilla. That would tell you to narrow your eyes toward the dessert section to kill the town power roles.

Of course people do lie about their roles, but there's a general rule of Lynch All Liars (which is to say that baring no better tell, we'll start lynching the people who have been caught in any lies).
Ragnar demonstrates here low confidence that User is scum.  "if you're not scum this time"  "imagine you're scum" and knowledge that User claims BP- a high value town role but suddenly grows impatient 20 mins later (time to talk things over with buddy) and axes User.  Then he give some BS thematic split read that had nothing to do with his reason for VTL 30 mins earlier

Town wouldn't kill a valuable role while demonstrating such low confidence.  Town wouldn't try a new angle minutes later


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Alright I'm tired and going to sleep. Wake me up if anything interesting happens, lol
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I'll look over what we have so far to make a read tomorrow.
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Regarding misrepresented "20 mins" turnaround... I unvoted in #117, and re-voted in #161, which is 10:22AM to 08:48PM (about 10 and a half hours).

As for the horror of me first giving general advice to a new player in case I was wrong, I'll stand by that in any game. My guess is that were I mafia this time, I would wait much longer, and let the vote occur naturally (or even hope it doesn't, as he would then be an easy mislynching).

Finally the conspiracy theory that I went and conferred with someone, and changed my mind during that short span of time... I hate to reference the outside, but anyone can glance at my forum or chat history, to which I usually take my sweet time composing even unimportant short posts.
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@PressF4Respect
Lolllll not MafiaGate

It's obviously bsh

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@Barney
I strongly agree with you. I see no real reason why oro is singling you specifically out after multiple of us voted User. If I recall correctly, Cookie hammered with little to know explanation either, which is much more suspicious
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@Speedrace
I honestly get what Oro’s saying. Ragnar implies that User is town yet still goes for the lynch on User despite his words. I think it makes sense. I would be OK with a Ragnar lynch if there isn’t any evidence that has not been put out yet

I think Cookie doesn’t become sus after the hammer. I give him the benefit of the doubt because he probably felt pressured with the little time and the clutter going on in the game potentially overwhelmed him, so he went for User. He also had a genuine suspicion that he was scum
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read post # 95 on dp 1
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To clarify, I wasn't calling cookie scummy at all, I was just saying that I think his vote was scummier than Ragnar's

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I will be inactive for a bit today. I am taking my AP exam in 2 minute so, won't be able to respond to anything
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@Speedrace
I get that for Cookie.  But for most cases, it's not truly facts. If you place a vote on someone, that can inherently make you scummy based on the reasoning. 
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lol you taking the ap 3 exam too? 
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ah i got u 
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By that I mean, a scummy vote =/= a scummy player is not necessarily true in most cases for clarification

AP Test starting in literally a minute. Talk to you then
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AP Lang yep
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@Vader
goodluck bruh 
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@Vader
Wish you told me so I could've given you tips. But no matter, crush it!