Canada Got Better. The United States Got Trump. (coronavirus)

I'm totally fine living in a sovereign nation of laws no matter how many times I am called weird funny-sounding names.

Decreasing the standard of healthcare for some while increasing it for others is definitely moral

OK, but if unmarked government thugs can just rent a van and grab you off the street without having to tell you who they are, what you are charged with, or even that you are being arrested, then you do not live in a nation of laws. 

You don't get to arbitrarily decide to resist arrest at the time of an arrest. If you want to resist the police, do it in a courtroom after they do whatever they do to you

Your odds of surviving a police encounter goes up dramatically if you do not resist, as well as your chances of getting justice in a courtroom after if the police were to actually abuse you.

These events have really highlighted what liars people on the right are. I've listened to these idiots for years say how they are worried about government overreach and that they need their guns to protect them from government overreach. Then when that government overreach comes, they simply do not give a shit. They don't care about the federal government sending unmarked thugs into the streets to grab people without warning and for no reason just because the man ordering it happens to be a republican. 

This is exactly what the right pretends they are preparing to resist, but now that it's hear, they cheer it on. 

 That is some of what trump's thugs have been doing. 

part of the process of being arrested is the police telling you that you are under arrest and for what reason.

If unmarked thugs jump out of a rental van and grab you without announcing themselves as police, without telling you what you are being arrested for, or even telling you that you are being arrested, then you have not been arrested. You have kidnapped. That is some of what trump's thugs have been doing. 

It is a common misapprehension that police officers are required to tell you why you're being arrested or what offense you've committed when you're being arrested. They are not, and even where there may be local statutes, the exceptions for officer discretion of practicality are in full force.

They aren’t unmarked. They literally have POLICE written on them lol. I challenge you to show me a video where a federal officer arrested someone where POLICE wasn’t written. 

It's obviously bullshit misinformation, otherwise those people would have a court case pending right now and a gag order from the Judge instead of cashing in on CNN panicporn mob supporters.

BTW. Nick Sandman just settled for a fucking motherload against the fake news industry. It pays to take the time to use the courts instead of cashing in on misinformation.

I’m pretty sure the person being arrested knows they’re being arrested. 

and no, the police don’t have to tell you why you’re being arrested according to Devenpeck v. Alford.

They aren’t unmarked. They literally have POLICE written on them lol. I challenge you to show me a video where a federal officer arrested someone where POLICE wasn’t written. 

why would you think that? There is footage of unmarked men grabbing a guy and shoving him into a van without saying a word. They gave no indication why they were grabbing him or if they were even affiliated with the police, let alone who precisely they were. 

Did you read about that? It took me like 2 minutes to see that you didn't. That case was to decide: Is an arrest lawful under the Fourth Amendment when the criminal offense for which there is probable cause to arrest is not "closely related" to the offense stated by the arresting officer at the time of arrest?

This case did not say a police officer doesn't have to tell you why you are being arrested. It says that if the cause to arrest given by the office is not closely related to the probable cause, that this is still lawful.

that is absolutely still "unmarked". Anyone can write police on a vest. They had no marking of what organization they were with or who they were. And the fact is that they were not police, they were border guards.

So the person can’t read POLICE? Ok.

Maybe you want to do a Control+F of the entire ruling to find where the court said that. 

They were federal agents. Anyone can write police on a vest and if they impersonate a federal officer it’s a federal felony. 

And even if they did your point makes no sense. Anyone can write police on their vest. Anyone can create a false identify too. What’s your point?

they can, but the thugs didn't identify themselves when asked. They never said they were police. They never said what department they were with. They never said why they were grabbing him. They never said if he was under arrest, or for what reason. They simply jumped out of a rental van and grabbed a man off the street. that is kidnapping. 

they said that the charges against them didn't have to be substantially the same as the the charge the officer said while arresting them. I don't see anything that says they don't have to say why they are being arrested. If you think it is something else, please provide evidence. 

exactly, which is why police should identify themselves.

That police should identify themselves. They should tell someone if they are arresting them, and if so why. They should not be permitted to snatch people off the street with no one knowing who they are, what branch of government they belong to, or why they are snatching people. That is some gestapo bullshit. If you are ok with secret police grabbing people off the street with no warning, no explanation and no one knowing who they are or why they are taking people, then you are saying you are ok with the government ruling through fear and coercion.

They don't care about the federal government sending unmarked thugs into the streets to grab people without warning and for no reason just because the man ordering it happens to be a republican. 

https://babylonbee.com/news/federal-secret-police-disguise-selves-as-rioters-so-democrat-mayors-will-let-them-do-whatever-they-want

Because Democrat talking points are a joke. Have you heard what Barr said in the latest Congressional "hearing?"

Exactly. Cancel culture extends all the way to the top level of government.

 They tried to ask him questions and he kept trying to interrupt to list off his talking points. 

Lol this has got to be the best example of Orwellian doublethink I have seen in a while.

Again, care to comment on what Barr said? Oh that's right. He wasn't allowed to speak at an Orwellian "Hearing" which was really a venue for a Democrat rally.

His answers were useless as far as I could tell.

But granted I don't subject myself to watching that pathetic excuse for an attorney general speak. 

did we not watch the same clip? The people asking the question hadn't finished asking it and bar was trying to cut them off to "answer it" (not that he was actually answering them). They then had to reclaim their time so they could finish asking the question. 

But granted I don't subject myself to watching that pathetic excuse for an attorney general speak.  -HB