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i think its pretty obvious wp is scum cuz its pretty obvious hes bullshitting 

oh, i thought you meant the last dp. i didn't notice the ping at the beginning somehow and only found out it was actually dp3 from the bump ping that lunatic sent right before my post.
just wow 




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 Is there any stipulation to how it works? Why did you choose who you did when you did?
im kinda new to mafia so wdym by stipulation and choose who you did when you did 
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Are you any certain variant of hider? I noticed that you didn't die when hiding behind someone WP claims is confirmed scum.
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Since scum wins if there's a mislynch, it is indeed possible for there to be a crazy gambit going on.

I kinda doubt we'll move beyond the utility of just lynching Water (having had to use his cop power, how could he not realize this was the next day?), but I'm willing to wait on recasting my vote.

To try to make sense of things, I've built the following. If I'm missing any relevant claims, please let me know...

                                           ROLE  NP1                                 NP2
1. iLikePie5                    Cop,   investigate Warren,  investigate Pie (scum)
2. PressF4respect       Miller, 
3. Warren42                   
4. Bullish                        Cop,    investigate Pie,          investigate Water (scum)
5. Littlecookie08         Hider, hid behind Croc,       hid behind Pie
6. WaterPhoenix         

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I want each of you to tell me why you targeted who you did when you did.
you were very insistent on disc and press not being scum that dp 1, and #288 and #289.

pie because in dp 1 he was my second most scum read behind warren, dp2 was a just an abyss of inactivity where i couldn't get any substansive reads at all.
Water, why did you not immediately claim your guilty today?
i had a brainfart. yes, i know that that sounds extremely scummy but can we please not lose this game.

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1. iLikePie5                    Cop,   investigate Warren,  investigate Pie (scum)
I think you meant Water here
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@skittlez09
Why did you target who you targeted when you targeted them.

And by stipulation I can't really explain it without possibly giving away what I'm looking for. Be exact: how does your role work?
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Why are yall still deliberating over this. Ragnar ur putting far too much effort into a won game. Literally just vote water then vote cookie to win.


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time check?
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@ILikePie5
Why haven't you claimed yet?
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Also why didn't you hammer yesterday?
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lunatic in this game made hider pretty basic 

all u have to do is hide behind someone and hope u dont die 

i have no idea if the person im hiding behind is scum or not 


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i hid behind croc dp1 as he didnt do much and was pretty safe from death 

dp2 i hid behind pie as nobody had it out for him

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@warren42
Why haven't you claimed yet?
I didn’t see a reason to. It’s a pretty clear cut scenario. If I’m scum then Water must be town or Water is scum and I’m town. I know Water is lying because he lied about me being guilty and he lied about not revealing who his guilty was instantly feigning ignorance. Post 21 and 24 are supportive of my case. Water said he wouldn’t reveal himself until he got a guilty. When he did get a guilty he didn’t instantly reveal it. It has scum written all over it.

Also why didn't you hammer yesterday?
I was on the Croc wagon. Water said he would hammer but he didn’t even bother voting for Cookie at the end. All I know is that Water is confirmed scum. If you want to VTNL we can do that but in that scenario Ragnar or you likely die tonight.

Tomorrow if I’m allow Im advocating for a VTNL just to cut the numbers a bit.
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Pie why are you still not claiming

That's my biggest hangup right now. You're actively refusing to claim. It's clear for you cause if you're scum you know that if you're town you know cookie is scum since he claimed a guilty on you. But for those of us actually needing to solve the game it's worth considering all scenarios, and you not claiming is at best petty and annoying, at worst scummy.
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Pie why are you still not claiming
Character is Gaz. Dude was in charge of 4 slaves or something until I met Shallan Davar when I became good. Im Vanilla town and can influence the game with my vote and voice.


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Thank you.
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Thank you.
My pleasure!
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Sorry for the major typo. I expected to be home no later than 9 last night, but do to some pointless drama, I did not get home until after midnight.

                                           ROLE       NP1                                 NP2
1. iLikePie5                    Vanilla,
2. PressF4respect       Miller, 
3. Warren42                   
4. Bullish                        Cop,         investigate Pie,          investigate Water (scum)
5. Littlecookie08         Hider,      hid behind Croc,       hid behind Pie
6. WaterPhoenix         Cop,         investigate Warren,  investigate Pie (scum)

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I put pie in my town pile on my second post in DP2: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4584/post-links/190540 and I never gave any explanation for it. That indicates I inno'd him but didn't want to claim cop yet.
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I can't see why anyone would not be voting water by the end of the DP. I'm not gonna post anymore this DP.
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Day phase 3  is being extended an extra day to allow ragnar to catch up. It now ends on 8/6/20 at 10AM CST.


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@Bullish
I'm waiting because Warren asked for time. I personally don't enjoy dragging things on, and will put my vote back in place before I go out today.

I do wonder why Speedrace thought Croc was more scum than LittleCookie, when making his choice for who to Vig. I am guessing it is from doubt related to #134.
 
Aside from his active choice to not vote for either claimed cop, what's the gist of what he did previously to confirm himself as scum?
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I mean Water... sorry, I'm getting those names flipped too damned often.
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I mean Water... sorry, I'm getting those names flipped too damned often.
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Ok so my final stuff I wanna do
  • Finish reading the DP1/2 looking for partner interactions
  • Check out how water's read on me might have changed between D1/2
  • Same for how bullish was reading pie
  • Vote

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Ok between that thing from bullish and reinforcing what I thought D2 about cookie/water looking like a plausible team I'm gonna go ahead and VOTE WATER
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Hammer is yours
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@Lunatic
Good luck everyone.

VTL Water.
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glgl catch y’all on the flip side (I hope)