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@oromagi
I think I get what you're hinting at. If you want me to reveal then I will but just the fact that you know that I had something to report town confirms you, I think that should be good enough for now.
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@Lunatic
If your telling the town that a cop who just got a guilty on you to “just be ignored” you are so clearly scum lmao
Wow everyone is just buying Supa’s claim as if I didn’t specifically include the example of a cop assuming he’s sane when outting his results
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@Discipulus_Didicit
If you want me to reveal then I will
Please do so in aid of my future decision making
Could also be a fake claim obviously
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I don't he has anything to report per say. Maybe he's asking if you had information
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@warren42
Well I mean even if he is sane and lunatic is a tp he would get a guilty... though that just means kinda wasted his action didn't he?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
How is that wasting an action lmao? If I didn't investigate him despite him being wrong, he would've said the same shenanigans now. But now there is someone pressuring him
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@oromagi
Please do so in aid of my future decision making
Okay, I assume you are referring to the telescope I was given last night. I have to wait until next NP before I can use it but by the fact that you knew I got something I assume you are the one who gave it to me.
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@Vader
How is that wasting an action lmao?
Supa just think for a second.
Scenario 1: Lunatic is mafia. In this scenario you would get a guilty.
Scenario 2: Lunatic is a TP. In this scenario you would get a guilty.
All scenarios have identical cop results, therefore your cop results did not teach us anything, therefore you wasted your action.
I am going to be furious if we do not lynch Lunatic this DP and instead go on an unrelated lynch due to Disc and Lunatic's manipulation.
We should discuss other lynches, but for the love of god, Lunatic should be lynch DP
We should discuss other lynches, but for the love of god, Lunatic should be lynch DP
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Supa just think for a second.Scenario 1: Lunatic is mafia. In this scenario you would get a guilty.Scenario 2: Lunatic is a TP. In this scenario you would get a guilty.All scenarios have identical cop results, therefore your cop results did not teach us anything, therefore you wasted your action.
A guilty means you are anti town, whatever your role is.
It shouldn't even be a discussion. You now want to give him town cred for manipulating town and then claiming "i'm siding with town" after he theoretically got his objective. It's absurd. There should no doubt that he is the DP lynch. He is anti town, lied, and got a guilty. It doesn't matter what happens. It isn't a waste of role because he could easily be lying
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@Vader
We should discuss other lynches, but for the love of god, Lunatic should be lynch DP
Nobody is ruling out a lunatic lynch. You need to calm the fuck down son.
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@oromagi
If you aren't the one who gave me the telescope you need to say right away so as to avoid confusion.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
But you are actively agreeing on what he says is my issue and are going along with his tactics is my issue
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@Vader
It isn't a waste of role because he could easily be lying
Your guilty changed nothing though, hence wasted role.
Like... say for example you were not a cop and did not cop him. What would be different? He still would have claimed TP. He still would be at the top of everyone's lynch list. None of that was because of your guilty.
I am trying to teach you how to get good supa.
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@Vader
What you have an issue with is not important to me. I am trying to explain why everyone is saying that you wasted your cop action.
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@Vader
Let me put it another way... would you use a cop action on someone that claimed miller? Why or why not?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
No. He claimed Beloved Princess in the first DP. So he'd come back innocent. It isn't until after I got the guilty he did his whole stupid shenanigan
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@warren42
@Warren42
Okay shot in the dark here... If you can't answer I understand. But Warren can you confirm a third party win condition has been met?
@rest of town
I also realize confirmation of this doesn't necessarily save me from being lynched, as you still have to trust my intent to help town from here on out, but at the very least, if warren confirms it will give me ammo to show supa not to argue so heavily for gut reads in the future lol
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@Vader
No. He claimed Beloved Princess in the first DP. So he'd come back innocent. It isn't until after I got the guilty he did his whole stupid shenanigan
Dude nothing I said dp1 matters. I needed to lynch Idaho or California, obviously I was gonna do whatever it took to accomplish that. What are you even trying to prove lol
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@Vader
We already knew he was not beloved princess because of croc flipping innocent.
Croc flipping innocent is what told us lunatic was lying.
Therefore your guilty did not tell us lunatic was lying, because we already knew that without your guilty.
Therefore your guilty told us nothing.
Therefore your action was wasted.
I ask again... Would you cop a claimed miller?
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@Vader
If your telling the town that a cop who just got a guilty on you to “just be ignored” you are so clearly scum lmao
supa.. I can't even with you. I am facepalming so damn hard. Are you pretending to be stupid to save face, or are you actually not understanding that 3rd party investigates guilty too?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
We already knew he was not beloved princess because of croc flipping innocent.Croc flipping innocent is what told us lunatic was lying.Therefore your guilty did not tell us lunatic was lying, because we already knew that without your guilty.Therefore your guilty told us nothing.
Yet you still are willing to accept Lunatic's beliefs when he is a clear scum. You would let live despite the fact he's a guilty. Again, he could be lying. Why are you blindly believing what he says?
Therefore your action was wasted.I ask again... Would you cop a claimed miller?
I wouldn't
Why would you believe someone who lied and led a mislynch, and now just wants to be left alive to "help town"
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@Vader
At this point I am just me trying to teach you how to be a better cop so you don't waste your NP 2 action the same way you wasted your NP 1 action.
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@Lunatic
1) warren hasn't put any 3rd party in his games just from my experience in playing
2) it's a 12 person setup, the optimal formula is 9v3, a 9v2v1 is a disadvantage.
3) yes, but i believing you are lying just by behavior, and yes i am aware. i am saying you are lying
3) yes, but i believing you are lying just by behavior, and yes i am aware. i am saying you are lying
Would you cop a claimed miller?I wouldn't
Good, that is the correct answer. Now please explain why you would not cop a miller.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Call me out all you want man, IDRC. I think you are the strongest scum read behind Lunatic. The fact that you are so open to have Lunatic alive is scummy
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@Discipulus_Didicit
That's not the case though. Now WE know the claim is 3rd party. We didn't know that and there was no way of knowing that unless a cop investigated him. I did and it turned him guilty. Just now he claimed. I was the first to claim a result, and he made up the result